Junkers Ju-88A-4 W.Nr. 10096 / Stammkennzeichen

[Ferreira]

Hi

What was the Stammkennzeichen of the Junkers Ju-88A-4 W.Nr. 10096, 5T+CK, belonging to 2./KG 101?

Cheers,

Franklin

* From Brazil

[edNorth]

No Ju 88 A-4 is known with that W.Nr.

[Ferreira]

Originally Posted by edNorth

No Ju 88 A-4 is known with that W.Nr.

This is the W.Nr. that appears on Robert Forsyth book, Mistel: German Composite Aircraft and Operations, p. 98.

[Peter Achs]

10096 was the W-Nr. of the Bf 109 F with the Stkz. VE+TP. The W-Nr. of the Ju 88 A-4 was 2559 (KI+CI) and 5T+CK was the Vbkz. of the entire Mistel. It was the Mistel V5.

Regards
Peter

[Ferreira]

Originally Posted by Peter Achs

10096 was the W-Nr. of the Bf 109 F with the Stkz. VE+TP. The W-Nr. of the Ju 88 A-4 was 2559 (KI+CI) and 5T+CK was the Vbkz. of the entire Mistel. It was the Mistel V5.

Regards
Peter

Hi Peter

According to the same book, the Bf 109F-4 of this Mistel was the CD+LX (WNr. 10 130), correct?

Best regards,
Franklin

[Peter Achs]

I don't have this book and don't understand what you mean. 109/10096 and 88/2559 was one Mistel (V5). The 10130 was the 109 of another one (Mistel V7).

Peter

[thenelm]

I don't have the Mistel book either, but there were 2 Ju 88s from KG 101 recorded lost on 13-Jun-44:

Ju 88A-4, 8765, Scheiberle, Ltn. Herbert, , E.St., KG 101, , 5T+BX, , , 13-Jun-44, MIA with crew, cause unknown., , Lfl.3, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle bei Schulen usw., p.101, , , 100%, E, , ,
Ju 88A-4, 140366, Schönherr, Oblt. Emil, , E.St., KG 101, , 5T+FX, , , 13-Jun-44, MIA with crew, cause unknown., , Lfl.3, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle bei Schulen usw., p.101, , , 100%, E, , ,



Where these Mistels? Have nothing for 14/15-Jun-44, but the Lw losses are certainly not always accurate or complete. The WNr. 10096 suggests that this may have been a Ju 88G-1 WNr. 710096? The 109 WNr. 10130 certainly has the SKZ 'CD+LX' and according to one source I have was lost on 15-Jun.

[Ferreira]

According to this source I have this:

WNr. 10130: Bf 109 F-4/ M1; CD+LX, Eins.St./ KG 101, Ofw. Heinz Lochmüller, KIA 15.06.44, near Château de Gassard

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=138999

[Ferreira]

Hi, Thenelm

Forsyth mentions only four Mistel of 2./KG of 101 in St Dizier. One I mentioned above (White 5) and more these three, below.

* Mistel 1 (V7), arrived from Nordhausen in 10 june 1944.

* Mistel S1 (V8), Bf 109 (NA+YS)/Ju-88 (CN+FK) arrived in St Dizier in 18 june 1944. This aircraft was assigned the tactical number 'White 1' by KG 101.

* Mistel S1 (V12), Bf 109 (DE+VK)/Ju-88 (GI+QH) arrived in St Dizier in 19 june 1944.

There are many pictures in the book of the 'White' 1, 2, 3 and 4 at St Dizier, in June 1944.

Cheers,
Franklin

[edNorth]

Originally Posted by thenelm

The WNr. 10096 suggests that this may have been a Ju 88G-1 WNr. 710096?

Incorrect suggestion. No Ju 88 G-1´s that I know of were between the prototypes (V58 W.Nr. 700001, V59 W.Nr. 700002) and G-1 W.Nr. 710401 etc.

Best regards
ed