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Help! Aircraft crashplace B-24 Lt. Panity, FW-190 Fw. Kurt Gren, 23.08.1944
During a mountaintour through Austrian alps I recently found some interesting reports about an aerial combat on August 23rd, 1944. A B-24 was shot down by a Focke Wulf 190 and caught on fire just before it crashed at mountainous terrain. A little memorial place indicates 5 dead airmen out of two planes during lunchtime. So I guess also the Focke Wulf crashed close to the B-24. According some investigations it could be the B-24 of Lt. Panity and the Focke Wulf of Fw. Kurt Gren.
Does anyone have details about this aerial combat? Regards and many thanks! Kurtl |
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Re: Help! Aircraft crashplace B-24 Lt. Panity, FW-190 Fw. Kurt Gren, 23.08.1944
if really B-24, must be one of these
7957 440823 B-24 42-78171 451 Markersdorf AF Wien 7956 440823 B-24 42-95379 Extra Joker 451 725 Whiting Kenneth A Markersdorf AF Wien Turnitz A 7958 440823 B-24 44-40196 ?44-3019? 451 727 Markersdorf AF Wien Sankt Aegyd am Neuwalde A 8324 440823 B-24 42-7763 451 Markersdorf AF Wien 7966 440823 B-24 42-78471 451 Markersdorf AF Wien 8326 440823 B-24 42-51334 451 Markersdorf AF Wien 7965 440823 B-24 42-78523 451 Markersdorf AF Wien 7974 440823 B-24 44-41163 454 8766 440823 B-24 41-28689 461 767 Last edited by FrankieS; 11th June 2010 at 23:29. Reason: error |
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Re: Help! Aircraft crashplace B-24 Lt. Panity, FW-190 Fw. Kurt Gren, 23.08.1944
Casualties (KIA) B-24 crews for 23.08.1944
451 BG, 724 BS: Philip W. Pratt, Jr. 454 BG, 738 BS: James W. Milne Ivan G. Nichols George M. Paddock Simon V. Prochin Herman Seelig Last edited by FrankieS; 11th June 2010 at 23:30. Reason: error |
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Re: Help! Aircraft crashplace B-24 Lt. Panity, FW-190 Fw. Kurt Gren, 23.08.1944
Nachname: Gren
Vorname: Kurt Dienstgrad: Feldwebel Geburtsdatum: 08.09.1920 Geburtsort: Wien Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 23.08.1944 Todes-/Vermisstenort: Wiener-Neustadt / NÖ Kurt Gren ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Blumau (Österreich) . Endgrablage: Block 4 Reihe 7 Grab 370 |
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Re: Help! Aircraft crashplace B-24 Lt. Panity, FW-190 Fw. Kurt Gren, 23.08.1944
Thanks alot for your help. Regarding further investigations it was B-24G 42-78171 of 2nd Lt. Glenn Stephens PANYITY who died during the crash. 3 other crewmembers of his 10 men crew also were KIA. MACR 7957 states: "attacked over IP, tail section came off at Ball Turret, noticed parachutes leave the ship, after which it went into a spin, losing both wings on the descent."
I wonder if there are any pictures of this B-24G available? |
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Re: Help! Aircraft crashplace B-24 Lt. Panity, FW-190 Fw. Kurt Gren, 23.08.1944
2 LT Glenn S. Panyity
ID: O-821350 Hometown: Bradford County, PA Status: KIA 451 BG 725 BS Hometown: Williams Street, Bradford Killed in action 23 August 1944 Over Markersdorf, Austria Age: 23 Group Burial: Section A, Site 12 Grafton National Cemetery, Grafton, WV Repatriated: 12 May 1950 Markersdorf Airfield was the target, but also the crashplace??? |
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Re: Help! Aircraft crashplace B-24 Lt. Panity, FW-190 Fw. Kurt Gren, 23.08.1944
Frankie !
The responsible Luftgaukommando (LGK) reports for this day the following crash-locations of B-24 (time / place or area / LGK-ME-report): -1100 Area Neuberg ME 2016 -1100 North of Bruck, Steiermark ME 2018 -1150 Forest near Slemdorf, Steinberg Community, n/e Pettau KSU 2017 -1230 St. Agyd, Nieder Donau ME 1974 -1230 Ferrara ME 1976 -1230 Bruck Mur ME 2049 -1233 Bischofsstetten ME1971 -1300 Near island Herso ME 1993 -1300 Eibenkogl Steiermark ME 2034 -1330 St Agyd Niederdonau ME 1973 -1330 Area Annaberg ME 1975 -1330 Annaberg ME 1972 Unfortunately, no aircraft's USAAF s/n shows up for this particular losses that day in the LGK day-by-day arranged catalogue. Maybe, this list of Aug. 23rd, 1944 Liberator losses can help you. All the best ! Horst Weber |
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Re: Help! Aircraft crashplace B-24 Lt. Panity, FW-190 Fw. Kurt Gren, 23.08.1944
Cheers !
Thank you Horst!!! |
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