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Old 9th November 2010, 04:57
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05/01/1944 b-17 shot down Bordeaux, France info on Luftwaffe claims

My father was shot down on January 5th, 1944 - b-17 from 410th of the 94th bomb group. Plane called li'l butch. He evaded capture with help from the French. My father passed away in April and I was doing some research my family.
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Old 11th November 2010, 17:49
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Re: 05/01/1944 b-17 shot down Bordeaux, France info on Luftwaffe claims

What's you father name?
I can have a look about it.
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Old 12th November 2010, 00:22
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Re: 05/01/1944 b-17 shot down Bordeaux, France info on Luftwaffe claims

Fathers name -Lt. Hugh Shields.
The area they were shot down was Cissac-Medoc, France.

Curious about fighters credited with shooting down b-17. There were multiple fighters engaged when they went down.
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Old 13th November 2010, 09:04
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Re: 05/01/1944 b-17 shot down Bordeaux, France info on Luftwaffe claims

google "Li'l Butch" gives a picture with:

41-9085 "Li'l Butch" Photo date unknown Also known by the name "Jarrin' Jenny" The only B-17E to serve with the 447th, also flew with the 303rd, 92nd, and 97th. Declared war-weary, written off and salvaged in England during July, 1945"

so there was another one with the same name ?

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Old 13th November 2010, 16:11
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Re: 05/01/1944 b-17 shot down Bordeaux, France info on Luftwaffe claims

There must have been. I do believe there is a reference to "l'il butch- 2" that I have seen. Funny, also after my fathers plane went down, someone wrote about being confused by seeing "l'il butch" at an airfield. There was also a fighter with the name "l'il butch" in the ETO.

His was a b-17 g. I have serial # at home. He was in the 410th. of the 94th BG. The plane blew up just after my father bailed out only one other survivor got out ahead of him.

Do you now the Luftwaffe fighter group designation for Merignac during that time?
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Old 13th November 2010, 22:51
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Re: 05/01/1944 b-17 shot down Bordeaux, France info on Luftwaffe claims

MACR 1891 serial 42-30112 Lil Butch
94BG 410BS
callsign GL-Z
Shot down by german fighters. 7 KIA; 1 POW; 2 EVD 1891
Pilot 2nd lt Allan C. Powell
2nd lt. Robert O. Anderson (EVADED)
sgt. Donald N. Boyer
sgt. Wesley D. Geist
sgt. Goble Miracle
2nd lt. Thomas H. Hudson
2nd lt Hugh C. Shields (EVADED)
sgt. Delmar C. Broyles
s/sgt. Alton M. Brown
s/sgt Roland C. Sims
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Old 2nd December 2010, 01:34
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Re: 05/01/1944 b-17 shot down Bordeaux, France info on Luftwaffe claims

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