Hauptmann Alfred Hammer

[Leo Etgen]

Hello

Leutnant Alfred Hammer (26 victories), Staffelkapitän of 6./JG 53, was wounded in aerial combat on 24 February 1944 and 13 June 1944. Would anyone have any loss list information regarding these occasions? Many thanks.

Horrido!

Leo

[Matti Salonen]

1944-02-24, 6./JG 53, Bf 109G-6, 440190, 1 gelbe, Linz, Kabinentreffer bei Luftkampf mit B-17. Bruch ? %.
Flugzeugführer Olt Hammer, Alfred, verletzt

Matti

[RT]

12 6 44 6 JG53 Gaël sud, BF109G-6 Hammer alfred if wounded or not I dont know..

Probably clashed with B24/P51

Rémi

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by RT

12 6 44 6 JG53 Gaël sud, BF109G-6 Hammer alfred if wounded or not I dont know..

Probably clashed with B24/P51

Hello remi,

where the information came from? In his flightbook and his Leistungsbuch isn't mention any flight, accident or dogfight between 24.02.1944 - 22.07.1944.

Best regards
Rasmussen

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by Matti Salonen

1944-02-24, 6./JG 53, Bf 109G-6, 440190, 1 gelbe, Linz, Kabinentreffer bei Luftkampf mit B-17. Bruch ? %.
Flugzeugführer Olt Hammer, Alfred, verletzt

Matti

Regarding his Leistungsbuches it was an fight with 70 - 80 B-17 (and "Lightnings"). He was wounded on his left leg during and did an belly landing on airfield Hörsching near Linz.

Best regards
Rasmussen

[RT]

At 13h00

Unfort. no source for the 12.June, but considering his log-book, you are pretty right , no flights recorded from 24.Febr. till 22.July 44, seems we hv to consider the 12.June as a "non-event"

At least Hammer seems to hv very clean victories, nd a gallant man, he gives the Wn of part of his Mounts

Rémi

[Flyingkag]

Hallo Rasmussen and Remi,

It seems you have some interesting documentation regarding Alfred Hammer and his Staffel!

I personnaly have investigated for some years about some airfights concerning the II/JG53 in late 1944, and especially the ones on november 25th, december 12th and december 16th 1944.

I would be VERY interested and thanksfull for any possible elements given in documents as logbooks or other unpublished documents concerning this unit on that time.

Particulary concerned in my research are Alexander Preinfalk (6/JG53) and Alfred Ostermeyer (7/JG53) , Rudolf Hartter (6/JG53) and Karl Schwarz (5/JG53), but in general the complete 5th, 6th and 7th Staffeln on these 3 days.

I would be very interested to share about them!

Cheers,

Mathias

[Leo Etgen]

Hello guys

Very interesting turn of events in which it now appears that he was not involved in any incident on 13 June 1944 as per www.luftwaffe.cz/hammer.html. Many thanks to Matti for the information regarding the 24 February 1944 incident. I noticed that the Kracker archive states that he was also involved in an incident with Bf 109 F-4 (W.Nr. 7412) while serving with 4./JG 53 sometime in March 1942. Is there any additional information about this incident if indeed it occurred such as date, cause and location? Many thanks to all who have responded.

Horrido!

Leo

[KrisJG3]

Originally Posted by Flyingkag

Hallo Rasmussen and Remi,

It seems you have some interesting documentation regarding Alfred Hammer and his Staffel!

I personnaly have investigated for some years about some airfights concerning the II/JG53 in late 1944, and especially the ones on november 25th, december 12th and december 16th 1944.

I would be VERY interested and thanksfull for any possible elements given in documents as logbooks or other unpublished documents concerning this unit on that time.

Particulary concerned in my research are Alexander Preinfalk (6/JG53) and Alfred Ostermeyer (7/JG53) , Rudolf Hartter (6/JG53) and Karl Schwarz (5/JG53), but in general the complete 5th, 6th and 7th Staffeln on these 3 days.

I would be very interested to share about them!

Cheers,

Mathias

Dear Mathias ,

Probably member of familly looking for pilot: Karl Schwarz - can You help them ? Also other people - do you have any news ?

See:

"...Hallo,

hat jemand Informationen zum Absturz/Abschuß von Karl Schwarz (Carl Schwartz)?

Er gehörte dem Jagd-Geschwader 53 an und ist am 14. März 1945 nach einem Luftkampf bei Worfelden abgestürzt. ..."

Source: http://www.vksvg.de/thread.php?postid=77908#post77908

Best regards

KrisJG3

PS:

This is probably another Karl Schwarz:


"...
1./JG53 losses over Rijeka,Croatia on 18.3.1944
oi!

On 18.3.1944 in battle over Rijeka 1./JG53 loss 4 Bf-109G-6:
- 162400; white 4; Uffz.Joseph Suss; KIA
- 162215; white 6; Uffz. Arno Schicke, MIA
- 162278; white 16; Fw. Karl Schwarz; MIA
- 162267; white 18; Uffz. Hans Buschmuller; MIA

With friends I have found 3 crash sites. Does anyone have maybe some photos of this pilots or planes or anything other.

thanks
Raus

Parts from two crash sites: ..."

Source: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=20440

[KrisJG3]

Originally Posted by Flyingkag

... Karl Schwarz (5/JG53), but in general the complete 5th, 6th and 7th Staffeln on these 3 days.

I would be very interested to share about them!

Cheers,

Mathias

- KARL SCHWARZ crashes in a forest near (xxx) around four o clock on 14 March 1945. - for 100% confirmed. Sorry but I can not inform about more details witout permission other person.