Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Allied and Soviet Air Forces

Allied and Soviet Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the Air Forces of the Western Allies and the Soviet Union.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 6th December 2005, 18:45
Flupke's Avatar
Flupke Flupke is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 371
Flupke is on a distinguished road
474th FG 42-104399 1 April 1945

I am looking for the name of the pilot and his fate who was flying the P-38J-15-LO # 42-104399 474th FG MACR 13668 this A/C was loss the 1/4/1945

Regard
Phil
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 7th December 2005, 01:01
Eagle0025's Avatar
Eagle0025 Eagle0025 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 138
Eagle0025
Re: 474th FG 42-104399 1 April 1945

Hello Phil,

The pilot in this incident was 2Lt. Robert L. Coleman (serial no. O-769612) of the 429th FS. On April 1, 1945, the 429th took off at 0836 hours from Euskirchen (Y-59) on an armed recce in the area of Warburg, Nordheim, and Mordhausen. There was bad weather in the recce area so the Squadron flew east. They located and attacked the airfield at Gottingen with 10-plus Luftwaffe aircraft of various types on the field. Bombing and strafing results were excellent. A 30-car passenger train was also strafed and damaged in the area.

Just before making the attack on the airfield, Lt. Coleman's P-38J-15-LO was hit by flak. He was seen to split-S from 3,000 feet just east of the marshalling yards at Gottingen (map grid coordinates C-525280). Two flashes were seen when the P-38 struck the ground. He was not seen to bail out. No parachute was seen. Coleman was later declared KIA.

Hope this helps.

Cheers, Gary
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 7th December 2005, 14:21
Flupke's Avatar
Flupke Flupke is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 371
Flupke is on a distinguished road
Re: 474th FG 42-104399 1 April 1945

Hello Gary
Many thanks for this information! Just another little question concerning the same day
Can you confirm that the Lt Craig from the 428th FS was flying P-38 #42-25497 when he made a single engine landing after to be hit by the light in the right one who was on fire, he was wounded on his leg , he was on the red flight on mission #366 ?
Regards
Phil
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 8th December 2005, 00:03
Eagle0025's Avatar
Eagle0025 Eagle0025 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 138
Eagle0025
Re: 474th FG 42-104399 1 April 1945

Hi Phil,

Unforunately I cannot confirm the individual P-38 that Lt. Craig flew on 1 Apr 45. As for the serial no., I believe you meant "44-25497", not "42-25497". There was no serial number 25497 that began with "42".

I can confirm that Lt. Robert L. Craig was flying as Geyser Red Four on that mission. The 428th FS history states "The mission was memorable principally for Lt. Craig who joined the "Purple Heart Club" after one of the narrowest escapes anyone in the Squadron had experienced. While Yellow Flight, led by Lt. Capron, was bombing a marshalling yard near Leinefeld, intense light flak caught Lt. Craig's right engine. A flak fragment ripped through the cockpit, coming so close to the pilot that it burst his right shoelace and grazed the top of his foot. Lt. Craig made it home all right, landing single-engine, having succeeded not only in quieting his shaking nerves but also in blowing out the flames that enveloped the engine when it was hit."

Hope this helps. I will keep an eye out for info linking Craig to the P-38 he flew that day.

Cheers, Gary
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 8th December 2005, 14:04
Flupke's Avatar
Flupke Flupke is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 371
Flupke is on a distinguished road
Re: 474th FG 42-104399 1 April 1945

Hallo Gary

You are absolutely right, sorry for this mistake but that solve my little problem
P-38L-5-LO 44-25497 is the airplane of the 429th FS loss the 31/3/45 2nd Lt Graham Milton R. (POW)O-710822 MACR 13665 , I don’t know were he went down nor the circumstances

Many thanks again, I have a lot of other question concerning the 474th FG , I think that you will have a little bit work with me ;-)

Best regards
Phil
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 9th December 2005, 03:01
Eagle0025's Avatar
Eagle0025 Eagle0025 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 138
Eagle0025
Smile Re: 474th FG 42-104399 1 April 1945

Hello Phil,Yes, you are correct about 2Lt. Graham going down on 31 Mar 45 in P-38L-5-LO, serial no. 44-25497. It was a 429th FS ship coded 7Y-W.The mission that day was an armed recce in the area bounded by Marburg, Horn, Seesen, Northeim, Weitzenhausen, Kassel, and Marburg. Somewhere in the area of Schmallenberg, Graham's P-38 was hit by flak and he had to bail out. He was seen by fellow pilots to ditch his parachute and rund east into the woods after he hit the ground. His crash and bailout area was estimated to be 4 miles northwest of Schmallenberg.Graham was captured by German troops, but was not in their company for long. Advancing U.S. troops overran the prison camp where he was held and liberated it. Graham returned to the 474th around 15 Apr 45. Paul Hissey, a squadron mate of Graham's, had a funny story about this mission. He mentioned how they thought old Milt had been captured so the other pilots went through his personal belongings and took what they wanted and drank his personal liquor supply. Paul said Graham was really ticked off when he returned to the unit two weeks later and found most of his things missing. Paul told me that is likely why Milt never attended any of the group's reunions after the war! Graham was also one of three former 474th FG pilots to stay in the Air Force after the war and rise to the rank of General.Ask whatever questions you may have on the 474th. I'm only too happy to help you out Cheers, Gary
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Documentation of 2000HP Bf 109s of 1945 Kurfürst Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 5 10th September 2009 12:15
Ofw Heinz Arnold's last sortie 16 or 17 April 1945? Roger Gaemperle Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 13 29th July 2009 09:24
19th April 1945 - P-47s vs. He 162s? Lagarto Allied and Soviet Air Forces 4 16th August 2005 21:54
FW190 Losses over Austria April 5th 1945 Alex Smart Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 9 14th August 2005 01:15
Tempest shot down a He 162 on 19 April 1945 --> Gun camera film? Roger Gaemperle Allied and Soviet Air Forces 5 25th April 2005 22:44


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:09.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net