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Old 28th November 2006, 23:38
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Sonderstaffel Schwilben, 10.5.40

Does anybody know from which unit/s the aircraft and crews of this unit were drawn and if they were returned immediately after the raid on the Meuse or was the unit retained for further special duties?

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Old 29th November 2006, 16:03
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Re: Sonderstaffel Schwilben, 10.5.40

On March 14, 1940, the intended 3./K.G.z.b.V.108 (under formation for Weserübung) was reformed as the Sonderstaffel Schwilden with the special mission to secure the bridges in Rotterdam on May 10, 1940. The Staffel was equipped with the He 59 aircraft. The Staffel was named after its commander, Hauptmann Schwilden.
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Re: Sonderstaffel Schwilben, 10.5.40

Hallo Seaplanes

Did the Sonderkommando revert back to 3./KGrzbV 108 or what happened to it? Surely 3./KGrzbV 108 existed later during the war?

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Old 30th November 2006, 10:48
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Re: Sonderstaffel Schwilben, 10.5.40

The Sonderstaffel Schwilden did not return to K.G.z.b.V. 108. Please note the difference between Kampfgeschwader z.b.V. 108 and Kampfgruppe z.b.V. 108. The latter was ordered formed on June 15, 1940 with 1. (seaplane Staffel) and 2./108 (landplane Staffel). On July 23, 1940, a Stab was added. The 3./K.Gr.z.b.V. 108 was not formed until April 3, 1941.
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Re: Sonderstaffel Schwilben, 10.5.40

Holá Adam,
very interesting question you raised here, especially when the answer from seaplane was so perfect. I enclose two images of the raid and do remember that I saw a short newsrail of this incident somewhere in the web. I will come back to you with the info when I find it.
Greetings from Spain to "down under".
@ seaplanes, thank you for your perfect info about ...108, I stored it right away.
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Re: Sonderstaffel Schwilben, 10.5.40

Hallo again Seaplanes

Sorry about the mistake. MY problem is that there is NO reference anywhere to a Kampfgeschwader z.b.V.108.

Fritz Morzik mentions no such unit in his work
Barry Rosch mentions no such unit in his book
The home page of Michael Holm doesn't either.

Can you please elaborate what kind of unit KGzbV 108 actually was and why on earth no one seems to know what it was??? How many Gruppen did it have? When was it formed and disbanded? What happened to its units after disbandment?

Would be very interested in your source(s) as well!!

With regard to Sonderstaffel Schwildern, Mr Rosch claims it was formed in January 1940 and disbanded in June that same year. No mentioning from where it came (or went). Any idea if this unit became something else?

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