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He-219 ”Uhu”s found at the end of the war
Hi all!
Perhaps a difficult task, but would it be possible to sum up all (or at least the ones we know of…) He 219 nightfighters found or captured at the end of hostilities? From various sources and my own research I have found the below listed places and aircraft (Werknummer and general condition found): Schwechat 190011 damaged/destroyed 190062 destroyed 190068 destroyed 190071 destroyed 190106 destroyed 190193 destroyed Ludwigslust: 310190 destroyed 310202 destroyed 310214 destroyed Lechfeld (3 pcs total) 190104 ok 190176 ok 190179 ok Westerland/Sylt (45 pcs total) 190130 290123 ok 310106 ok 310112 ok 310182 310188 310215 ok 420331 ok Halle 310193 damaged Münster/Handorf 211116 211121 destroyed 211124 290057 destroyed 290059 damaged 290199 destroyed 290200 destroyed Paderborn 290004 destroyed Soltau (6 pcs total) 310185 destroyed Hörsching/Lintz, Austria 190060 ok Karup/Grove, Denmark (7 pcs total) 210903 ok 290060 ok 290126 ok 290202 ok 310109 ok 310189 ok 310200 ok Kastrup, Denmark (1 pcs total) 210901 ok Eger/Cheb, CZ 190121 damaged 190223 destroyed As can be seen there are many blanks, especially regarding Westerland/Sylt, in the above. Does anyone have more information? Most likely there would also be several other locations where these aircraft ended up - please feel free to add to the list. And, of course, if you spot any errors in my summary, please feel free to point them out. Thank you very much in advance! |
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Re: He-219 ”Uhu”s found at the end of the war
Thanks for the interesting list. Some minor comments:
Sylt 290123 was G9+TH 420331 was G9+DB Paderborn My notes show 290004 was found at Münster/Handorf. Either way, code was G9+DH Hörsching 190060 was PK+QJ Grove 290126 was D5+BL 310189 was D5+CL Cheb 190121 was DV+DQ also Hildesheim 290112 (photo with Allied troops sitting all over it, WNr. clearly visible) Münster/Handorf 290124 (photo with American GI, WNr. clearly visible) |
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Re: He-219 ”Uhu”s found at the end of the war
I believe that 2 books are about to be published on the He 219 so maybe all the answers are there
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Re: He-219 ”Uhu”s found at the end of the war
thanks Chris
for 'about to be published' read when the authors actually finish! |
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Re: He-219 ”Uhu”s found at the end of the war
As always when researching the He 219, for every two steps forward you take one back: the later publications indeed tend to correct many old mistakes as well as providing some new information, however, they also raise new questions…
Chris, the two new books are most welcome (the one by Francis Ferguson is already released I believe), but there are still some mystery puzzles regarding the story of the Uhu that remain unsolved. Earlier this year Valiant Wings also released an updated volume of Richard Franks’ excellent book (first published in 2012), providing som new and most welcome information – however, it still includes a couple of errors and contradictory information. AndyMa, thanks a lot for your additions! The final location of WNr 290004 could very well have been Münster/Handorf; I have it listed at Paderborn albeit with a questionmark, so this will require some further investigation. So, if we update the list we would get something like the below (I have added known Stammkennzeichen and operational codes): Schwechat (5 pcs total according to some sources) 190011 VO+BC damaged/destroyed 190062 RL+AB destroyed (possibly found elsewhere than at Schwechat?) 190068 RL+AH / VO+BC destroyed 190071 RL+AK destroyed 190106 DV+DB destroyed 190193 BE+JF / G9+EK destroyed Ludwigslust: 310190 KO+HT destroyed 310202 KZ+UH destroyed 310214 KZ+UT destroyed Lechfeld (3 pcs total) 190104 RL+AW ok 190176 GU+BI ok 190179 GU+BL ok Westerland/Sylt (45 pcs total) 190130 GU+BF ok 290117 ok 290123 G9+TH ok 290124 ok 310106 KO+HA ok 310112 KO+HG ok 310114 KO+HI ok 310182 KO+HL / G9+VH ok 310188 KO+HR ok 310208 KZ+UN ok 310215 ok 420331 G9+DB ok Halle 310193 KO+HW damaged Münster/Handorf 211116 G9+UL destroyed 211121 G9+DL destroyed 211124 290004 G9+DH destroyed (possibly found at Paderborn?) 290057 CS+QD destroyed 290059 CS+QF / G9+BH damaged 290199 GI+KN destroyed 290200 GI+KO / G9+CB destroyed Paderborn 290004 G9+DH destroyed (possibly found at Münster/Handorf?) Soltau (6 pcs total) 310185 KO+HO destroyed Hörsching 190060 PK+QJ ok Karup/Grove (7 pcs total) 210903 SP+CR / G9+LP ok 290060 CS+QG ok 290126 D5+BL ok 290202 GI+KQ / G9+KQ ok 310109 KO+HD / G9+VH (?) ok 310189 KO+HS / D5+CL ok 310200 KZ+UF / D5+DL ok Kastrup (1 pcs total) 210901 B4+AA ok Eger/Cheb 190121 DV+DQ damaged 190223 BE+JU destroyed Münich-Riems 190113 DV+DI destroyed Hildesheim 290112 damaged Do we have any information on aircraft found at Rostock? Regarding Westerland/Sylt: there have been rumours of an inventory list of captured/surrendered aircraft there - is this list possibly available somewhere? |
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Re: He-219 ”Uhu”s found at the end of the war
To address a couple of points raised in your post.
43 He 219s were captured at Westerland-Sylt - 2nd TAF Report B-135. Regrettably no detailed listing exists. FIU Report 53 on Wien-Schwechat provides good detail on 5 He 219s. The Paderborn He 219 is covered by TI Report A-384. Hildesheim is covered by TI Report A-371. You're welcome to PM me for copies of these. |
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Re: He-219 ”Uhu”s found at the end of the war
Thank you Steve, PM sent!
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Re: He-219 ”Uhu”s found at the end of the war
Thank you again Steve for the excellent reports!
Also, thank you Revi16 for the picture of the Bindbach He 219 – this is a very good picture of ??+CL, although unfortunately the WNr of this aircraft is (AFAIK) still unknown. Updated list below: Schwechat (5 pcs total according to FIU Report 53) 190011 VO+BC damaged/destroyed (V11) (A/C (b) acc. to FIU Rep.53) 190062 RL+AB destroyed (possibly found elsewhere than at Schwechat?) 190068 RL+AH / VO+BC destroyed (V28) (A/C (e) acc. to FIU Rep.53) 190071 RL+AK destroyed (V18) (A/C (d), BL+AK acc. to FIU Rep.53) 190106 DV+DB destroyed (V31) (A/C (c) acc. to FIU Rep.53) 190193 BE+JF / G9+EK destroyed (V16, Jumo222) (A/C (f), BF+JF V18 acc. to FIU Rep.53) Ludwigslust: 310190 KO+HT destroyed 310202 KZ+UH destroyed 310214 KZ+UT destroyed Lechfeld (3 pcs total) 190104 RL+AW ok 190176 GU+BI ok 190179 GU+BL ok Westerland/Sylt (43 pcs total) 190130 GU+BF ok 290117 ok 290123 G9+TH ok 290124 ok 310106 KO+HA ok 310112 KO+HG ok 310114 KO+HI ok 310182 KO+HL / G9+VH ok 310188 KO+HR ok 310208 KZ+UN ok 310215 ok 420331 G9+DB ok Halle 310193 KO+HW damaged Münster/Handorf 211116 G9+UL destroyed 211121 G9+DL destroyed 211124 290057 CS+QD destroyed 290059 CS+QF / G9+BH damaged 290199 GI+KN destroyed 290200 GI+KO / G9+CB destroyed Paderborn 290004 G9+DH destroyed (confirmed TI Rep.A-384) Soltau (6 pcs total) 310185 KO+HO destroyed Hörsching 190060 PK+QJ ok Karup/Grove (7 pcs total) 210903 SP+CR / G9+LP ok 290060 CS+QG ok 290126 D5+BL ok 290202 GI+KQ / G9+KQ ok 310109 KO+HD / G9+VH (?) ok 310189 KO+HS / D5+CL ok 310200 KZ+UF / D5+DL ok Kastrup (1 pcs total) 210901 B4+AA ok Eger/Cheb 190121 DV+DQ damaged 190223 BE+JU destroyed Münich-Riems 190113 DV+DI destroyed Hildesheim 290112 damaged Unidentified: ??+CL found in Bindbach near Bayreuth. 1 (possibly 2) found at Husum 15/5’45 310316 found destroyed (where?) |
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Re: He-219 ”Uhu”s found at the end of the war
In Halle there was also the blown-up "1L+Mx" of NJGr.10.
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