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Captured crew of Italian plane 16.Nov.41 Ostfront
Hello!
On 16.Nov.41 armored train No.2 shot down an Italian plane near Natalievka (Donbass). The crew (Ltn and Sgt) were captured. Is it possible to find out the type of the plane and the names of the crew? Best regards, Andrey |
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Re: Captured crew of Italian plane 16.Nov.41 Ostfront
The Italian official histories are online at archive.org translated in English. I stumbled on to them at believe it or not combinedfleet.com
The RA volume has on 12 Nov 41 the 371 Sqn Ct for several days flying CAS for the 80th Infantry Regiment surrounded in Nititowka by the 174 RD of the RKKA. Nothing else from this period. from the rest of the 22 Gp or 61 Gp flying Ca 311s Could the plane be from another Air force? Like Hungarian, Rumanian,Slovak, German? |
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Re: Captured crew of Italian plane 16.Nov.41 Ostfront
James, thank you very much!
I have now downloaded all 4 volumes in English from archive.org. Found also vol.1 in the original, but haven't found where these volumes are on combinedfleet.com yet. Don't know yet. The document says they are Italians. I was at TsAMO in July and asked in passing if the captured Italian documents are available? Alas, not yet at the moment. I don't even know what is there. But, I think, in the winter of 1942/43 during the defeat of the Italian 8th Army a lot of documents were captured. Best regards, Andrey |
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Re: Captured crew of Italian plane 16.Nov.41 Ostfront
Gentlemen
Would it be possible for you to show a bit more exact where these docs are? At least I am a man with two left hands when it comes to find anything on the internet..... ![]() Cheers Stig |
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Re: Captured crew of Italian plane 16.Nov.41 Ostfront
Not a problem for us left-handed people.
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Re: Captured crew of Italian plane 16.Nov.41 Ostfront
He,he Nick
![]() Perhaps I should have said two left feet then.... ![]() Cheers Stig |
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Re: Captured crew of Italian plane 16.Nov.41 Ostfront
Hello Stig,
The Royal Italian Air Force In WW2 Vol.1-4: https://archive.org/details/lra-1-th...8Ver%202.0%29/ https://archive.org/details/lra-2-th...in-ww-2-vol.-2 https://archive.org/details/lra-3-th...in-ww-2-vol.-3 https://archive.org/details/lra-4-chapt.-2-ver.-1 From war diary of 15.SD about the Italian crew (upper strings of page 41): https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/v..._to=17.11.1941 Cheers, Andrey |
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Re: Captured crew of Italian plane 16.Nov.41 Ostfront
Hello Gianandrea,
thank you a lot, and especially for your evaluation of the official history of the Regia Aeronautica. What is the unreliability of these volumes? Is the basic information (OOB, etc.) also unreliable? I wish you success in writing your book. Best regards, Andrey |