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RAF night fighters on the 11/12.8.40 night
Hi,
perhaps someone could tell me, which squadrons of RAF night fighters were engaged during the 11/12.8.40 night? Many thanks in advance. Best regards Robert |
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Re: RAF night fighters on the 11/12.8.40 night
Whereabouts?
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Re: RAF night fighters on the 11/12.8.40 night
On the 7th September 1940 the FIGHTER COMMAND:
ORDER OF BATTLE OF NIGHT FIGHTERS No. 87 (B Flt) Filton/Bibury No. 604 Middle Wallop No. 141 (B Flt) Biggin Hill No. 25 (A Flt) Debden/Martlesham No. 25 (B Flt) North Weald No. 600 Hornchurch No. 23 Wittering No. 29 Digby No. 264 Kirton-in-Lindsay No.219 Catterick No. 141 (A Flt) Turnhouse Turnhouse Note: One section of FIU (Blenheim) stationed at Tangmere available for operations. Start looking at the ORBs for these No-one was successful at night for quite some time |
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Re: RAF night fighters on the 11/12.8.40 night
Two German bomber crews reported being attacked by 1-2 night fighters. Thanks for this OdB.
Best regards Robert |
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Re: RAF night fighters on the 11/12.8.40 night
Hi,
I found out that there was a claim for destruction of Do 17 over Dorset that night. Any details? Best regards Robert |
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Re: RAF night fighters on the 11/12.8.40 night
Nothing in any book Robert. This would have been 604's territory and although patrolling that night, no contacts and claims. I have a private 87 Sqn diary which I will have a look at later
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Re: RAF night fighters on the 11/12.8.40 night
No Do.17’s recorded on that night in the Luftwaffe Crash Archive volume.
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Re: RAF night fighters on the 11/12.8.40 night
Hi Ian,
the German aircraft in question made it back across the Channel and has been abandoned over France close to its airbase. Best regards Robert |
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Re: RAF night fighters on the 11/12.8.40 night
Cannot find a Do17 lost 11/12 August in GQM Verluste RL-2-III-1174 either
the losses of KG55 around those dates are from III/KG55 that flew He111s Martin |
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Re: RAF night fighters on the 11/12.8.40 night
More information on the KG55 losses on 11/12th August 1940:
The Luftflotte 3 Einzelmeldung for this date reported that aircraft of III/KG55 took off at 21.15 (20.15 BST) to attack the Rolls Royce works at Crewe and the aircraft factory at Filton, Bristol. One of these aircraft was later reported as overdue, while a final report stated that the missing He 111 had crashed between Melun and Paris and the aircraft ad been destroyed, while the crew of five escaped by baling out. This was He 111P G1+HT of 9/KG55, which is presumed to have been damaged by AA fire during the night-time attack on Bristol, crashing at Rambervillers northeast of Épinal. This was over 200 miles east of III/KG55's airfield at Villacoublay, near Paris, and it is assumed that the crew baled out from the damaged aircraft, which then flew on its unguided course to the crash site. The Einzelmeldung was incorrect in its assessment of the fate of the crew, which only numbered four. The pilot Uffz Schmidt and the observer Uffz Held were killed, while Uffz Bubel and Fw Paulussen were injured. The aircraft was a write off. A second He 111 of III/KG55 operating from Villacoublay was reported as force landing at the airfield with engine failure. The aircraft suffered 25% (repairable) damage and the unnamed crew were unhurt. Some sources state that this was a non-operational incident, but it is possible that this aircraft was part of the same mission as He 111P G1+HT, but turned back with engine failure, probably shortly after takeoff. Mason, Ramsey/Cornwell, Balss and Dierich list the loss of He 111P G1+HT, with three of them citing a fighter attack as the cause of the damage. Mason links the loss to claims by Hurricanes of 257, but this combat over Portsmouth took place approximately 12 hours earlier and did not involve KG55. It is more likely that the Heinkel was damaged by AA fire as no claims were made by RAF night fighters on this date. Also note that Balss states that the two wounded crew members became PoWs, but this is not the case, they came down over France – Uffz Bubel flew later with 8/KG55 and was killed on 1 November 1940, when his He 111 was shot down during a mission to London. The loss of this aircraft has been discussed on the forum at: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=60714. Mason, Ramsey/Cornwell and Balss list the damage to the second He 111 of III/KG55, with general agreement in the details. |
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