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Old 10th April 2020, 20:09
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Photos Airco

Hello,


Currently on ebay a photo, according to the seller of a Airco DH.4 of 1 Communications Squadron at:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW1-RAF-p...MAAOSwZRFeiw5C


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Old 10th April 2020, 21:19
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Re: Photo Airco

Hello,


There is a photo of Airco DH.2 of A2607 of 32 Squadron at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-ab...cAAOSwMmhekE2c


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Old 22nd April 2020, 22:02
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Re: Photos Airco

Hello,


Currently on ebay there are a couple of collections of photos from 25 Squadron including examples of Airco DH.4 at:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25-Sqn-RA...EAAOSwl0xenET8

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25-Sqn-RA...oAAOSwWPtenEfH


I've listed them here as most of the other photos in each linked item are of personnel.


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Old 27th April 2020, 16:29
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Re: Photos Airco

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of an Italian based, but RFC operated Airco DH.4 at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/regia-aerona...UAAOSwiuVepdnb


Can anyone identify the unit from the little that can be seen of the unit marking?


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Old 2nd May 2020, 10:28
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Re: Photos Airco

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of the shot down Airco DH.4 A7661 of 55 Squadron at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/RARE-x3-Foto...wAAOSw32VerKF~


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Old 7th May 2020, 15:56
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Re: Photos Airco

Hello,


Currently on ebay there is a photo of Airco DH.5 A9390 at:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/De-Havill...EAAOSwih9esmhv


I assume that this is a repro so may have been seen before, however Harlaxton is fairly close to where I live so I wondered if anyone had any information on which training unit operated A9390?


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Old 31st May 2020, 12:34
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Re: Photos Airco

Hi Clint,

Yes you are right for 1919. N°205 sqdn posted to La Louveterie -eastern side of Liège - Belgique -as noted at bottom right of the last link from 1/1919 to 3/1919

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Old 6th June 2020, 08:31
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Re: Photos Airco

Hello,

De Havilland 1a 4608
No.14 Sqn RFC.

Date on Sqn: 24/07/16
Date off: 05/03/1917

Shot down by enemy aircraft* while on recce mission.

5 Wing carried out a continuous offensive against Turkish troops withdrawing from Weli Sheikh Nuran, The first clue that a major withdrawal was in progress came on 5 March when the early reconnaissance by Lt Floyer and 2Lt CV Palmer failed to return. Search flights found the wreckage of the aircraft at Tel el Jemmi, but no sign of the crew. It was later learnt that they had been shot down by the German Ace, Hauptmann G(erhard) Felmy (!)*, and had been taken Prisoner of War ...

2Lt E A Floyer
2Lt C V Palmer

Both POW.

* Although other records indicate that they may have been shot down by anti-aircraft fire (fn.21: p.63)

See:
Winged Crusaders The Exploits of 14 Squadron RFC & RAF 1915-1945.
Napier,Michael.
Barnsley:Pen & Sword Aviation,2012.
pp.38-9, 63 (fn.21) & 294.

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Old 6th June 2020, 08:33
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Re: Photos Airco

Morning,


Thanks for the response and the very complete information.


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Old 6th June 2020, 18:34
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Re: Photos Airco

Very interesting update (as usual) Col

However Oblt Gerhard Felmy, who belonged to FA 300, was neither an ace nor on duty on March 5th 1917.
He had arrived to Palestine 11 Sep 1916 and been wounded on 2 Dec 1916 (when he also claimed his only victory) and transferred back to Germany. Officially he was transferred out from FA 300 on 16 Aug 1917 and while in Germany he was not declared fit again until 9 Jan 1918.

As far as I can see neither FA 300 nor any other German unit made any claim on March 5th.

There was another Felmy in FA 300, Hptm Hellmuth Felmy who was the Abteilung leader from 23 Aug 1916 to 1 Nov 1917. He made a total of 4 claims during his period of duty with the unit.

Thus none of them were any ace as such. To me it seems Michael Napier simply lumps them together and making 1 + 4 into 5.

Checking Henshaw he firmly states the British crew was on a low level patrol, shooting up "everything in sight" and were hit by groundfire. Oddly enough Henshaw has not managed to identify the serial number of the DH.1A. He had obviously not read Napier's book....

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