Battle for Kiev 1941: VVS order of battle

[yogybär]

Similar job for the 1941-battle around the ukrainian capital as we made it so well for the 1943-story... but this time it is much more difficult as there are no such clear documents available - at leat not to me.

Who can help? Maybe in BC/RS1, there is something? Sadly, I don't own it .

[yogybär]

I found out that the involved RedArmies Group was the "Bryansk Front" with its connected air units... but which air units are these & which types they used still is unclear.

Does anyone have informations here?

[Michal]

Hi,

believe, you know bit russian. See attachment, there is OOB of Bryansk Front for September 15 1941.

[Michal]

You mistook me. Defence of Kiev made Aviation of Jugozapadnyi Front. See in attachment OOB for July 11 and 17 1941.

[yogybär]

I personally still believe that it was the Bryansk Front which flew in Defense of Kiev. Why do you disagree?

Starting from your OOB-doc of Bryansk-Front, it was widely inferior to the german II&V Fliegerkorps which supported the Heer.

Here are the soviet numbers, already simplified for the game PF:
10 I-153
13 I-16
44 MiG-3
25 Yak-1
26 Il-2
40 DB-3 (added them as support from AAD-forerunner)
24 Pe-2
18 Sb
25 Su-2
33 U-2 (incl. others like R-5)
SUM ca. 260

versus ca. 500 Luftwaffe combat AC (Bf109F, Ju88, Ju87, He111 + Recce).

Any more input?

[Jens]

IMHO Michal is right, Southwestfront (Jugosapadnje front) and airplanes of it defended Kiev, since Bryansk is more in the north of it.