Ju52's and SM81's lost 13-11-42, one from JG53?

[David Pausey]

13-11-42
Ju52 of Stab/JG53? with ground crew of 11/JG26? shot down by 227 Sqn Beaufighters.
Four Ju52’s and two SM81’s were claimed by 227Sqn, from KGzbV7 and III/KGzbV 1 ?
Can anyone confirm these losses and provide more details ?
Thank you David

[Brian Bines]

Found a Ju 52 of KGr.zbv 7 C6+AZ wn 6536 missing this date Ff. Ltn Alfred Voight, B.Ofw.Karl Schafer, Bf. Uffz.Wissmann, BM Ogef Zollner, Bm Ofw.Esser all missing. Unknown cause, possibly on flight between Reggio and Tunis,

Regards

Brian Bines

[David Pausey]

Thank you Brian

Got the information from Fighters over Tunisia and wanted to update a file. Priens JG53 history does not mention this incident and their is a brief mention in Caldwells JG 26 War Diary.

Regards
David

[robert]

Hi David,

there is information in Jochen`s JFV Part 8/1 about lost of one Ju 52, which was shot down over the M.Sea. The 11/JG26 lost 14 of its ground crews.
The date of this accident is placed around 24.11.42.

Regards

Robert

[David Pausey]

Robert

Fighters over Tunisia has the date as the 13-11-42 and Caldwells JG 26 War Diary does not mention this loss until the 15-11-42, so its possible it was reported late.

Regards

David

[robert]

Yes,

but you should remember that 11/JG26 moved on the 24.11 to Tunis.

Regards

Robert

[Mark R.]

The claim that JG 53 Stab lost a Ju-52 on page 51 of Fighters over Tunisia is puzzling. The JG 53 history (Prien, p. 587 - English language version) states that they lost an He-111 to Beaufighters on 27 November, with the pilot - Obfw Rolf Peitzsch and seven ground personnel on board. No mention of a Ju-52 lost at all.

[Matti Salonen]

1942-11-13, 5./KG.z.b.V. 1, Ju 52/3m, 5079, 1Z+FN, Tunis – Trapani, M.G.-Beschuß. Bruch ? %.
B Uffz Kohl, Walter, verletzt


1942-11-13, 7./KG.z.b.V. 1, Ju 52/3m, 7174, 1Z+IR, Tunis – Trapani, M.G.-Beschuß. Bruch ? %.
Bf Uffz Popp, Willy, verletzt


1942-11-13, 8./KG.z.b.V. 1, Ju 52/3m, 5099, 1Z+ES, Tunis – Trapani, M.G.-Beschuß. Bruch ? %.
Bf Ogfr Riedel, Helmut, verletzt


1942-11-13, 1./KGr.z.b.V. 102, Ju 52/3m, 6450, G6+FN, Tunis – Trapani, Feindbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.
B Uffz Schmidt, Hermann, tot
Bf Uffz Grotzki, Heinrich, tot


1942-11-13, 4./KGr.z.b.V. 102, Ju 52/3m, 3202, G6+AS, Tunis – Trapani, Feindbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.
F Ofw Ludwig, Walter, vermißt
Bf Uffz Deppisch, Hans, vermißt
Bm Fw Waldhör, Johann, vermißt


1942-11-13, KGr.z.b.V.S 7 (Reggio), Ju 52/3m, 6536, G6+AZ, Bei Trapani, Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
F Lt Voigt, Alfred, vermißt
B Ofw Schäfer, Karl, vermißt
Bf Uffz Wißmann, Jakob, vermißt
Bm Ogfr Zöllner, Heinrich, vermißt
Bs Ofw Esser, Karl, vermißt
Fluggäste von 11./JG 26:
Waffenwart Ogfr Baltes, Werner, vermißt
T.P. Flg Büchner, Hans-Georg, vermißt
T.P. Gefr Degner, Willi, vermißt
T.P. Flg Hildebrand, Heinz, vermißt
T.P. Gefr Krebs, Heinrich, vermißt
T.P. Gefr Körbl, Alois, vermißt
T.P. Ofw Leese, Rolf, vermißt
T.P. Flg Lüsebrink, Walter, vermißt
Flzg.-Mech. Uffz Mayr, Alfons, vermißt
T.P. Flg Meister, Erwin, vermißt
T.P. Flg Raabe, Erhard, vermißt
Waffenwart Ogfr Roeder, Karl, vermißt
T.P. Flg Stegemann, Berthold, vermißt
T.P. Uffz Stolecki, Albert, vermißt
Motorenschlosser Ogfr Würz, Josef, vermißt


Matti