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Old 20th July 2008, 19:50
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Bf 109 H in service with 5.(F)/123

The recent thread on the Bf 109 H-1 has prompted me to get organised and post what I have on my website.

There are still lots of gaps in the story but I do have:
  • The aircraft's Werk Nummer;
  • Where it was converted;
  • What engine, boost equipment, camera, radio gear and armament it carried;
  • An account by someone who claimed to have flown it;
  • What happened to it.
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Old 20th July 2008, 20:01
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Great stuff Nick... thanks for sharing this with us

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Old 20th July 2008, 21:34
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Yes, I agree! Simply great!

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Old 20th July 2008, 23:57
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Re: Bf 109 H in service with 5.(F)/123

After all that testing and work. It's like an elephant giving birth to a peanut.

Wonderful investigative work, Nick!!

With the anti-aircraft people of all nations, the motto appears to be: "If it flies, it dies!" In his book on his Bomber Command experiences, Doug Harvey said that each time a raid was directed to fly over London out-bound on a mission, the AA would fire at the aircraft even though the number of aircraft and their direction should have left no doubt as to who they were.
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Re: Bf 109 H in service with 5.(F)/123

To Nick: Does your information come from HW5 records at the National Archives at Kew or from the Ultra messages at the same place???
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Old 29th July 2008, 20:22
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To Nick: Does your information come from HW5 records at the National Archives at Kew or from the Ultra messages at the same place???
From HW5/ and from the CSDIC (UK) SRA reports in AIR40/

HW5/ material is ULTRA, it is the the original deciphered material from which the "Main Series of Reports to Allied Commands" in DEFE3/ were compiled. HW5/ often gives far greater detail.
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Old 2nd August 2008, 00:24
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Re: Bf 109 H in service with 5.(F)/123

Hi all,

In the text from Nick Beale, one can read :

"The new aircraft was Werk Nummer 110073 and was fitted with a pressure cabin, a “DB 605-GS engine” (which Thomas H. Hitchcock identifies as an error for BS)"

DB 605 G was the first designation of DB 605 AM. DB 605 GS was in fact a DB 605 ASM

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Re: Bf 109 H in service with 5.(F)/123

JCM,

Interesting information on the engines, thanks for sharing.

Nick,

Nice work as usual. Always regarded the H as a pink elephant.
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Old 2nd August 2008, 09:17
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Hi all,

In the text from Nick Beale, one can read :

"The new aircraft was Werk Nummer 110073 and was fitted with a pressure cabin, a “DB 605-GS engine” (which Thomas H. Hitchcock identifies as an error for BS)"

DB 605 G was the first designation of DB 605 AM. DB 605 GS was in fact a DB 605 ASM

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I'm happy to leave this to people who, unlike me, know something about engines! Tom sent me a spec sheet for the GS but I'll include your comments the next time I'm updating the site. Thanks.
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Old 2nd August 2008, 11:32
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Re: Bf 109 H in service with 5.(F)/123

Hi all,

Günther Specht's Bf 109 G-5 AS (with DB 605 ASM and without pressurisation) WNr 110064 was from the same series as the ones depicted by Nick Beale.

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