NARA Seattle

[brewerjerry]

Hi All,
Just found out about NARA Seattle.
In the online brochure it lists, German records captured at the end of WW2, anyone know what they are ?
or what aircraft records they hold if any there ?
Cheers
Jerry

[yogybär]

Additionally, I found out that
- they have a quite big amount of documents concerning the air war vs. the Soviet Union.
- it is possible to buy scanned microfilms on DVDs.

Who is experienced or wants to share costs of an order of DVDs?

[Dénes Bernád]

I would be interested to contribute financially if there is anything on the air war in Eastern Europe, 1941-1945.

Please contact me if I can join in.

[byron-]

We must have first a list with the roll numbers and their discription, beeing able to give an order.
I know the procedure of orderig, what we need is a film-list. Who is able to help?

[yogybär]

I can - but I won't.
Honestly: I know some NARA-microfilm-roles of interest concerning Ostfront seen from OKL-point of view, but I don't know how to order...

Let's first collect some people and I try to find out more in the meantime.

EDIT: Some examples:

OKL/910
OKL - Luftwaffenführungsstab Ic.
1944/03/00 086 0000411
Daily situation maps from the German First, Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Air Fleets on the Eastern
Front, showing the number of aircraft involved, the areas of combat flights and losses, and the
activities of the Finnish Air Force.

OKL/710,125 1943/01/00,1944/10/00
OKL - Luftwaffenführungsstab Ic/FLO.
Lists of Soviet airfields arranged alphabetically and by target number.
092 0000001
OKL/261

OKL/1632, 2280, 2360 1944/03/01-1945/02/28
OKL - Luftwaffenführungsstab Ic/FLO.
092 0000317
Three German Air Force maps showing the location of Soviet airfields from the Black Sea to the
Baltic Sea.

(will this maps be good quality?)

OKL/248 1944/09/00-1945/01/05
OKL - Luftwaffenführungsstab Ic/FLO.
093 0000014
German Air Force reports and notes on a conference in Prague, photographs showiog Vlassov w:..th
German Air Force officers, and information on establishing the air force of the Soviet Army of
Liberation.

No. 58. Der Einsatz der alliierten Luftwaffe an der Invasionsfront. July 3, 1944.

OKL/2938
OKL-I. Kampfgeschwader 40.
1942/06/26-1943/12/01 107 0000654
German Air Combat Squadron 40 combat reports for the period June 26-July 6, 1942, and activity
reports for the 9th Airborne Maintenance Branch in Tours, France, for air operations between Oct.
5 and Dec. 1, 1943.

OKL/2974
OKL - I. Kampfgeschwader 55.
1943/02/13-1944/02/28 107 0000725
German Air Combat Squadron 55 reports on air operations in the Ukraine, with lists of
participating officers.

OKL/416
OKL - Gen. Qu. 6. Abteilung.
1944/08/01-1945/03/30 112 0000528
General Quartiermeister Abt. 6 reports on aircraft losses through accidents and in combat.

I get tired, so only one more:

OKL/834, 838, 886, 894 1943/07/01-1945/02/10
OKL - Luftwaffenführungsstab Ic/Auswertestelle Ost.
121 0000194
Reports of interrogations of Soviet Air Force personnel shot down behind German lines,
concerning the Soviet aircraft "Jak-3" and "Jak-9", the delivery of U.S. "Boston" aircraft to
Archangel, and aircraft production in the Soviet Union. Also included are combat and casualty
reports for the 29th Soviet Anti-Aircraft Division.

[byron-]

I don`t think, these codes have any thing to do with NARA rolls Jörg, they maybe refere to BAMA. I posted similar documents some time ago

www.gyges.dk/files_in_das_bundesarchiv.htm

I have the existing film-lists of the Wehrmacht and kriegsmarine, but not of the Lw.

[yogybär]

Byron, I copied the quotes above directly from a pdf-file with a NARA-emblem on top. I think the material was microfilmed and then handed over to the Bundesarchiv.

The advantage of NARA is that one can order DVD's instead of traveling to the BArch. Or does Freiburg also offer electronic copy service?

Your lists are also very interesting, thanks for that link!

[Kari Lumppio]

Originally Posted by yogybär

Byron, I copied the quotes above directly from a pdf-file with a NARA-emblem on top. I think the material was microfilmed and then handed over to the Bundesarchiv.

Hello!

Some of the descriptions do look familiar. I believe these are available as microfilms but you have not included the roll number(s). If I had to guess they are from group T-321 and roll numbers 12x or around that. I have some rolls with nearby code.

BTW. I think the German records are not held at the NARA Seattle site. Are you sure you restricted you search to Seattle site only or was the search area for the whole NARA? At least I was not able to find any German records held at Seattle.

Kari

[John Beaman]

From someone familiar with the NARA:"The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is headquartered in Washington, D.C., mostly in the Roosevelt-era building downtown but also at Archives II - College Park (where you have been). These two operations, however, are but the tip of a bureaucratic pyramid. The NARA also operates 13 regional depositories within the United States. One of these regional depositories is located in Seattle; another in Kansas City; another in East Point (Atlanta) Georgia; another in the Dallas area; one or two in California, and so forth. The regional depositories are charged with receiving and conserving the obsolete records of federal agencies within their geographic region.In addition to the regional depositories, the NARA also operates two National Personnel Records Centers in St. Louis, Missouri: one for military personnel records and one for civil personnel (i.e., retired civil servants) records. It's possible that there are yet other miscellaneous activities and facilities of the NARA, but I never heard of any others.So far as I know, the only way that any German records could possibly be found at NARA/Seattle is thru its accidental/incidental holding of copies of RG 242 Captured German Records on microfilm, the same material that we buy on microfilm from the NARA at College Park, where the masters are held. Because of the expense of copies and other factors, I am seriously skeptical that any captured German records on microfilm exist at the Seattle Regional Depository."

[yogybär]

To be honest, I more or less hijacked this thread because on teh day it was opened I found out about the documents I listed above... .

So, I did not know anything about NARA's locations...

@ Kari: The role number is included, look out for three-digit number as fat below:

OKL/710,125 1943/01/00,1944/10/00
OKL - Luftwaffenführungsstab Ic/FLO.
Lists of Soviet airfields arranged alphabetically and by target number.
092 0000001
OKL/261

Do you have role 121 / 0000194 whic is also in my above examples?