Who shot down....................?

[Brian]

Hi guys

I don't know if this has been asked before, but .........

Who shot down Lilya Litvak on 21 May 1943?

and Yetaterine Budanova on 18 July 1943?

Cheers
Brian

[Nikita Egorov]

Hi, Brian!

Where did you get this dates?

As regards to Lidia Litwyak, she was shot down or shot up three times in July-August 1943 by german fighters: 16.07.; 21.07.; 01.08.1943. The last case ended in her death.
Time and place of her last combat correspond several claims made by I/JG52 pilots. It is not clear, since all this claims are against IL-2s. So, I presume plane type misidentification here.

Budanova lost her life in airial combat on July 19, 1943. Apparantly she was shot down by II/JG3's Ofw. Hans Frese.

Regards,
Nikita

[rob van den nieuwendijk]

Hello Brian and Nikita,

Hans Frese did not have the rank of Ofw at that time. He still was a Feldwebel. On 19 July 1943 he claimed a LaGG-3 in 88259 at 15.44 hours. Is this near Hryhorikva? Is more info on this incident available??

On the internet I found that she flew alone and engaged two Me 109's. She claimed one shot down and was then shot down herself. Could het claim be Uffz Helmuth Schirra of 4./ JG 3. He was shot down in combat with IL-2 in 88239 (2 km east of Dmitirjewka). Schirra is still MIA.. . . .


Best regards,
Rob

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by rob van den nieuwendijk

On the internet I found that she flew alone and engaged two Me 109's.

What was she doing flying alone? That's unusual. Perhaps an armed recce mission?

P.S. I assume Hryhorikva is actually Grigoreyevka. How far was this from Kuybishevo? There were several claims filed by Rumanian '109 fighter pilots against Yaks and LaGGs on that day.

[Franek Grabowski]

Unless the source could be verified, I would be very cautious. Soviet propaganda provided thousands of fake accounts, even when not necessary.

[rob van den nieuwendijk]

Franek,

Text is:
On July 19, 1943, during a solo combat with three Bf 109, she shot down one, but was shot down herself and killed near the town of Antracit in Luhansk Oblast.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katya_Budanova

Any thoughts..?

Best regards
Rob