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This time KG51 3.MAI 1941
This day KG51 in action above Kreta, claimed a big tanker, nd paid in return with 3 planes , forced to ditch two are known 9K+GH nd 9K+LH,
the third is unkown , at least to me 9K+BH, I seen that Dierich speak about an Uffz ernst Beckmann dead, but... Remi |
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Re: This time KG51 3.MAI 1941
Good Morning Remi
I have copy photos of 9K+BH and 'DH taken in the Balkans/Greece would these be of any help? Regards Chris |
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Re: This time KG51 3.MAI 1941
Which date the picture, ChrisS ??
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Re: This time KG51 3.MAI 1941
Hi, Remi
Can not find a referance to the third aircraft. Is it possible that the person in question was killed, but the aircraft below 10% damage? Have seen a few of these, flak damage usually. A NVM should however exist. Anyone got one? Regards, Andreas B
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Re: This time KG51 3.MAI 1941
I have no record of it either. I think Andreas' suggestion will probably be the answer.
Last edited by Jim P.; 23rd May 2009 at 00:17. Reason: gr |
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Re: This time KG51 3.MAI 1941
The source "Salu" reported 3 losses, first two we hv 9K+GH /9K+LH, comparing the crews nd those reported by Dierig, just Beckmann pop-out, but Dierig list just the dead or missing pers. nd in this case just 3 names of 12...
Remi |
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Re: This time KG51 3.MAI 1941
Hi guy´s.
It has been my experiance that possibly some losses stated in the SALU reports may have not occurred in reality. These reports were based on radio intercepts and sometimes (especially under emergencies) aircraft radio operators may have inadvertandly transmitted wrong codes (or the British intercepted them wrongly). I too only find two I/KG 51 losses on that date, but again the third loss may have been aircraft that eventually reached shore/base (and recovered under 10% damaged). |
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Re: This time KG51 3.MAI 1941
Possible, Ed, but Med. Front seems a bit a special one, there is for sure some question about the losses over Malta..
Remi |
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Re: This time KG51 3.MAI 1941
To Andreas Brekken concerning the loss record for Ju 88 6327.
I have a Fw. Georg Fanderl of 1./KG 51 in my database. He survived the war. Frans A |
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