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Old 29th September 2009, 20:33
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Loss of a Fokker T.8 W (W.Nr. 5646) 16.09.41 Insel Milos

Loss of a Fokker T.8 W (W.Nr. 5646) of Stab A.Gr. 126, 16.09.41 Island of Milos, near the rock of Falkonera.

In the following doc is refeared a loss of two airmen and one heavily wounded. As far as i know FF. Ofw. .... Zimmermann was killed, who was the rest?

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Old 29th September 2009, 23:25
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Re: Loss of a Fokker T.8 W (W.Nr. 5646) 16.09.41 Insel Milos

Luftwaffe loss returns dated 19-9-41 has three handwritten names entered under Personnalverluste so I do not know if these were travelling on the aircraft rather than aircrew - 16-9-41 Ltn Rolf Wille , Uffz Karl Dorn and Ofw Franz Zimmermann. Admendment dated 26-9-41 then shows Wille and Dorn as dead and belonging to Auf.Gp.126, while admendment dated 30-9-41 shows Zimmermann as died of injuries and also of Auf.Gp. 126.
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Re: Loss of a Fokker T.8 W (W.Nr. 5646) 16.09.41 Insel Milos

Hello Brian, thanks

As one can see, on the document i posted is writen "zwei Mann der Besatzung tot, ein Feldwebel schwer verletzt" that means "two men of the crew dead, one Fw. heavily injured". Apparently the injured man died soon aswell.
My conclusion, all of them belonged to the crew, Franz Zimmermann was the pilot, Ltn. Rolf Wille the observer (?).
Can you tell me please the Nr. of the returns page you found these infos?

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Old 30th September 2009, 11:17
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Re: Loss of a Fokker T.8 W (W.Nr. 5646) 16.09.41 Insel Milos

In the KTB of Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M. for September 1941 the following crew of this aircraft was listed as:
Lt.(M) Rolf Wille (observer)
Uffz. Karl Dorn (pilot)
Ofw. Franz Zimmermann (observer)
I personally think that Franz Zimmermann was a radio-operator rahter than observer. The cause was said to be pilot error and the location west of Milos.
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Old 30th September 2009, 15:14
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Re: Loss of a Fokker T.8 W (W.Nr. 5646) 16.09.41 Insel Milos

Thanks for the contribution Seaplanes,

Are there any Codes-letters of this plane in your saurce?
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Re: Loss of a Fokker T.8 W (W.Nr. 5646) 16.09.41 Insel Milos

Hei,

This T.8W was the former R-14 of the Dutch Navy air arm. It was a G type that means that it had a mixed construction. The forward fuselage was made of Dural, the centresection and wing made of wood and the tail of welded tubes covered with fabric. The Germans also used the M type, this T.8 was an all metal aircraft. During its ferryflight from the Fokker factory to Travermunde it registration was TD + CA

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