Györ-built Bf 109 G-6 picture

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hello to all,

I just found this very interesting Corbis picture of a Soviet officer settling in the cockpit of an Bf 109 G-6:

http://pro.corbis.com/Search/SearchR...003104&ac=null

The photo shot by Yevegueni Khaldei in 1945 near Berlin shows dozens of other Bf 109 G's in the background, devoid of any unit markings. The only readable Werknummer reads 760070 which points on a Györ produced Bf 109. Can anybody else provide more details on the location? How many planes were produced by the Györ factory in Hungary?

Cheers
Marc

[ChristianK]

Hi Marc,

not a 100 percent certain, but from other photos I have seen of a VERY similar group of aircraft, the airfield should be Berlin-Johannisthal, were the Bücker aircraft company and DVL (Deutsche Versuchsanstalt für Luftfahrt) was located. Maybe this is a hint?

Cheers,
Christian

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hi Christian,

Thanks for your information, it might shed more light on this intriguing picture. The fact that no plane shows any form of unit markings could support your location proposal. Another puzzling fact is that all identified Bf 109 G's are either G-6 or G-14 subtypes. Not a single G-6/AS, G-14/AS, G-10 or K-4 can be seen. Was Berlin-Johannistal a place for refurbishing older airframes?

Cheers
Marc

[Cpt_Farrel]

The camoflage doesn't correspond to any of the usual camo-patterns so they seem to have undergone considerable re-paint...

All aircraft have tailfins with a very special mottle that I've only seen once before, in a photo from a workshop. The photo is in Luftwaffe camoflage and markings by Ken Merrick and the caption says it's from a facility found in February 1945 during the advance on the second Belorussian front. No further detail is given.

[Dénes Bernád]

On the Gustav at right, I see the 'white cross in black square' type marking of the Royal Hungarian Air Force.
A larger resolution photo would be nice to see if there is any individual numeral on that particular aircraft...

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Draga Dénes, szokszor köszönöm!

Thanks dear Dénes, for your input. I tried to blow up as much as I could the low-res picture, but could not see any Gustav with RHAF type cross. Which plane do you mean?

Cpt_Farrel,

Thanks for your lead. Could this be a repair facility in Hungary, even in Györ itself?

Cheers
Marc

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

I tried to blow up as much as I could the low-res picture, but could not see any Gustav with RHAF type cross. Which plane do you mean?

I meant this:


However, at a closer look it might just be that the simplified white German cross is visible.

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by Dénes Bernád

However, at a closer look it might just be that the simplified white German cross is visible.

Another picture of the W.Nr.760070 you find in "Under the red Star" by C.-F. Geust on page 98. Then I have an picture of this place published in the former GDR magazine "Neue Berliner Illustrierte" ... and there you can see that the "Hungarian Cross" is indeed an simplified German cross. The location was given there as Berlin - Johannisthal.

Best wishes
Rasmussen

[S Sheflin]

Hello everyone,

Regarding the WNr. just visible inside of the D/F loop, I too tried playing with the photo and came up with 4?0735, though like Marc, I am uncertain of my conclusion.

Steve Sheflin

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by Rasmussen

Another picture of the W.Nr.760070 you find in "Under the red Star" by C.-F. Geust on page 98.

Indeed, it appears to be the same site.
You have very good eyes, Rasmussen! I would have never guessed it.