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Old 18th January 2010, 03:29
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Langford Lodge

Hello
Do you know if a team of pilots was attached to the air depot of Langford Lodge to ferry american aircrafts to air base in England ?

If so, what was the name of this special unit ?

Thank you for your help.

Alain.
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Old 18th January 2010, 10:50
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Re: Langford Lodge

A number of various units were based there at times:

http://www.history.army.mil/reference/ireland/niair.htm

from the above, the 311th and 312th Ferrying Squadrons were based there in 1944 for a time, and these were I think parented by the 27 Air Transport Group.

What is your interest in the base? There are a number of historical grous in Northern Ireland who could help out.

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Old 19th January 2010, 17:08
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Re: Langford Lodge

Hello Dennis,

thank you for your help, I would like to find the name of the pilots,
notably a Lt Guerrero or Guerriero.

Alain
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Old 20th January 2010, 11:48
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Re: Langford Lodge

There was/is a website but from pervious contact they unit did not have a tidy fixed establishment, ferry pilots came and went. Did this pilot crash an aircraft, there might be some other way to ID him, please give all the details you have.
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Old 20th January 2010, 19:32
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Re: Langford Lodge

I have no details on him unfortunately, I know that he went with a P38 Lightning at Coningsby in june and July 44, the 5 Group tested it as controler aircraft in several ops.
So Lt Guerrero or Guerriero went to show how to fly it to the RAF pilots, he also learnt to fly on Mosquito (from 627 squadron).
I found his name in some logbooks.
So I would like to trace him, hoping to consult his logbook, to know more about the use of P38 by Bomber Command.
Not an easy way, but ...

with all the sun of Moorea !
Alain
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Old 13th February 2010, 23:20
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Re: Langford Lodge

Hi Alain,

I share your interest in 5 Groups use of the P-38! Would you by chance have any photo's, or serials of the aircraft involved?

I believe that the version used was the Droopsnoot, which were modified at Langford Lodge. I had a book somewhere, I'm afraid I can't remember the title, which had a couple of photo's - these were not of great quality, but appeared to show that they retained their U.S. markings, but with black undersides.

A few years ago "Flypast" magagzine published a photo of a P-38 Droopsnoot in R.A.F. markings, it was natural metal overall, although the radiator housing looked like it was P.R.U. blue - hard to judge as it was a black and white photo. IIRC, this aircraft ended up in a training college in Holland or Belgium post-war.

You may want to contact the Ulster Aviation Society - before being forced to move they had an aircraft collection at Langford Lodge, and had restored the control tower. I was a member until the early 2000's when family commitments got in the way. Several events were held there, including veterans returning.

They are still active, although the aircraft are at a new location. I'm sure that some-one will be able to help.

In the meantime I try to check for the book title.

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Michael
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