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Old 7th October 2011, 12:50
Mirek Wawrzynski Mirek Wawrzynski is offline
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Soviets attacks on Berlin VIII-IX 1941?

During two months Soviets had made 10 air attacks on Berlin, mostly by 1. MTAP (DB-3T) and much less by land long-range aviation: DB-3F of 40 BAD (all were 9 missions) plus one more was conducted by heavy bombers (TB-7 and Yer-2 - it was total failure for Sovites).

1. I wonder if these attacks were any kind "noiced" by German A/A systems?

2. What about damages done by these attacks in Berlin?

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Old 7th October 2011, 19:14
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Re: Soviets attacks on Berlin VIII-IX 1941?

Hi Mirek!

I have a German report ( "Technische Nothilfe-Landesgruppe Berlin) from 8.8.1941 about a Russian air raid in the night of 7./8.8.1941.
Between 0.00 and 02.06 19 bombs were dropped on Berlin. One bomb contained leaflets with Stalin's speech from 3.7.1941.
Several houses were damaged. 2 people died and 12 were injured and four people were reported missing on 08/08/1941.

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Old 8th October 2011, 15:51
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Re: Soviets attacks on Berlin VIII-IX 1941?

Rene,
could you please give an exact (archive) referemce for that report, please?
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Old 8th October 2011, 16:42
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Re: Soviets attacks on Berlin VIII-IX 1941?

Hi thanks
German had slight over estimated this air attack. It was the first mission against Berlin, and only 5 planes (of 10 DB-3T or -3b of 1. MTAP) had come over Berlin, other had attaced secondary target.
One DB-3T (whole crew of st. lejt. Finjagin - 3 MIA) was missing during this mission.

Anyway it was great succes of Soviet aviation (big PR). So they had conducted next 9 mission on Berlin.

BTW the most "mass" attack of DB-3Ts and DB-3Fs (there were from DBA regiments) was on 15/16.08. This night according Soviets 17 bombers had bombed Berlin. Do you have any information about results of this attack?

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Old 8th October 2011, 17:22
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Re: Soviets attacks on Berlin VIII-IX 1941?

I have forgotten. According Soviets they had dropted 30 FAB-100 on Berlin on 8.08.41. According this German document in fact about 3 planes had attack Berlin, not 5. If right remeber (?!), in the first reports Soviet claimed attack of only 3 bombers on Berlin, other crews attacked secondary tragets along the route.
Each bomber had on the board in this first mission 6 FAB-100s.

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Old 8th October 2011, 18:41
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Re: Soviets attacks on Berlin VIII-IX 1941?

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Rene,
could you please give an exact (archive) referemce for that report, please?
Carl
No ! I have only copys , received from a friend.

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Re: Soviets attacks on Berlin VIII-IX 1941?

Hello Carl
There at least were at MPKK:n Kirjasto, Maurinkatu, Die Geheimentagesberichte der Deutschen Wehrmachtführung in Zweiten Weltkrieg 1939-45 volumes, in Band 3: 1 . März 1941 - 31. Oktober 1941 (1992) pp. 249-51 it gives same in info as Rene's, 3 Flugzeuge (vermutlich russische) über Berlin-N... it gives axact info on damages, also addresses. Personalverluste: 2 Tote, 13 Verletzte, da 4 Personen noch verschüttet sind ist damit zu rechnen, dass die Zahl der Toten und Verletzten sind noch erhöht.

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Old 9th October 2011, 10:19
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Thanks - kiitos!
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Old 9th October 2011, 11:15
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Re: Soviets attacks on Berlin VIII-IX 1941?

Juha,
just out of curiosity and if it is not too much work: Could you post this adresses please?

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Re: Soviets attacks on Berlin VIII-IX 1941?

Following link has something on the Russian air raids in 1941 as remembered by General Kuznetsov: http://admiral.centro.ru/balt02.htm

Just an addition to what's posted already.

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