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Old 12th January 2012, 08:47
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A New Me262 picture taken in Hötting?

Hi gents,

Never seen that one:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Me262A-JV44-1...item20c10a3950
1: Is it new?
2: Is it Hötting?

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Old 12th January 2012, 10:13
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Re: A New Me262 picture taken in Hötting?

Salut Franck!

According Dan O'Connell's analysis posted on LEMB, this plane could be a Stab./JG 7 machine. The pic is taken at Innsbruck, positively identified as such.
http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/fo...pic=5311&st=40

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Old 12th January 2012, 13:07
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Re: A New Me262 picture taken in Hötting?

Definitely Innsbruck-Hötting. Blasienberg (Mt. St.Blaise) is in the background; view is from northeast looking southwest.
Concerning the jet ist max be also one of the ex-I./JG51 (red tailtip with white trim?) machines.

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Old 12th January 2012, 14:15
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Re: A New Me262 picture taken in Hötting?

Bonjour Marc & Roland,

Thank you both of you:
Marc; for the link!!!!
Roland to confirm the place - for which I had/have no many doubts, except I have/had NOT this one in my datas.
Roland, I agree for an ex-I./JG 51 machine but when you say "one of the ex-I./JG 51 machines" does it mean there was others? And do you mean ex-I./KG 51 instead of JG?
Last, in order to help people I join an aerial view of contemporary (1945) Hötting airfield.
1/ Someone able to point where was this present machine?
2/ It will be good to get a larger view of that picture - is it possible?

Thanks for comments and help.

Regards, Franck.

PS: don't forget my question: "is it a new picture?"
.... and here is the aerial view I was talking about...

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Old 12th January 2012, 17:30
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Re: A New Me262 picture taken in Hötting?

Terrible typo - of course KG 51.
Remember "Black L", 9K+FH on southern bavarian airstrips.
This one seems to be parked close to the poplar alley in the north of Hötting airfield.

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Re: A New Me262 picture taken in Hötting?

You're forgiven Roland!
Infortunately that place is in the back ground of the picture I put!
Is you're natural language english or german???
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Re: A New Me262 picture taken in Hötting?

OK Roland,
Thanks for your quick answer!!! I start to get the figure... We talk later!
Tschüss, Franck.
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Re: A New Me262 picture taken in Hötting?

Gents,

That aircraft, White 1, WNr.1133xx, is certainly a JV 44 aircraft. It was abandoned about 30 metres to the left of White 12 and orientated similarly (forward to the north). It has appeared in the background of several photos in the past - you just have to know where to look.

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Re: A New Me262 picture taken in Hötting?

Thank you David,

So, White 12 nose is pointed towards the Zirl road - eg poplar alley - and the mountain in the background - eg south-western part - are Blasienberg (Mt. St.Blaise) said Roland.

Sorry to insist David but I try to point - since long - all the planes on one Hötting map, using the relative position of one plane to another one and using the (small) aerial picture I have on which it's quite impossible to see the said planes and the wooden barracks (Zirl road/northern part).
In the mean time, the Me 262s in the foreground of my picture are easy to count; that means - for me - there were more Me 262s in Hötting than all the figure I've read on forums (TOCH & LEMB since it's my only reference, having no "bible") until today.

Regards, Franck.

I forgot: "White 1" ?

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Old 13th January 2012, 12:26
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Re: A New Me262 picture taken in Hötting?

Hello Franck,

"white 12" is photographed from west looking to the east. To the right is "Berg Isel"(Mt.Isel).
Wooden barracks and hangars (Hötting was a glider airfield) are visible in your photo. The famous Ju 87D-7 of NSGr 9 was parked there with several jets (e.g.111857) surrounding it.
Concerning "White 1". I think Dan is mistaking above "1" - colour unknown - with "White 1" (number on fuselage nose) mistakenly having landed at Innsbruck-Reichenau a/f, the then civil airport of Insbruck.

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