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Old 13th June 2012, 22:37
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Two late Bf 109 to identify:

Good evening Gents,

today's haul showed up quite interesting pictures. I have here two nuts to crack:

1. http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream
If I'm correct, "RT+.U?" is an Erla produced Bf 109 G-6 with tall tail unit. Any clue as to which W.Nr.? I checked Peter van gogh's great Stammkennzeichen page, but to no avail: no Bf 109's are known to have sported the "RT+.." Stkz.

2. http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream
This one is tougher, owing also to the low res scan. For my eyes, it looks definitely like a Bf 109 G-10 (two small chin bulges denoting a DB 605 D); any idea as to which unit and where?.

May I remind you of a third one I posted in the late war Bf 109 thread a while ago?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream
According to Prien and Rodeike 1995, III./JG 1, I./JG 5 and II./JG 11 were the first to be equipped with this subtype. I would be most interested into identifying unit and place.

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Old 13th June 2012, 23:55
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Re: Two late Bf 109 to identify:

Hi Marc

The RT+U_ block were Bf 109G-8 (see http://www.stammkennzeichen.de/). This one would seem to be RT+UU.

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Old 14th June 2012, 09:02
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Re: Two late Bf 109 to identify:

Many thanks, Ian!

Any W.Nr. known for RT+UU? Waiting for my access at this site...

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Old 14th June 2012, 15:21
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Re: Two late Bf 109 to identify:

No WNrs given for this block

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Old 14th June 2012, 16:34
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Re: Two late Bf 109 to identify:

Thanks Ian!

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Old 14th June 2012, 17:26
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Re: Two late Bf 109 to identify:

Hello,

Hmmm
1/ Marc wrote RT+.U? (dot for missing letter), not RT+U?
2/ Given the the black triangle behind man's shoulder doesn't seem to be another U but an X, a V or, eventually, a T.

I did start a thread about this one, month ago, in TOCH (doesn't mean I know and doesn't mean I did find something more) ... But I'm still thinking that White 27 style on cowling points to a Finland AF plane.
A G-8? No way, whatever. I think there is too much "full-complete-stkz-batch" in Bert site. And only one - if ever confirmed - doesn't mean the serie is complete.

But, of course, I can be wrong .

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Old 14th June 2012, 20:59
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Re: Two late Bf 109 to identify:

Well, the aircraft sports the typical ERLA camouflage from 1944, and ERLA didn't build G-8s AFAIR...
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Old 16th June 2012, 08:31
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Re: Two late Bf 109 to identify:

Point taken, Franck and the_ivan! I reverted it to its Erla built G-6 status...

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Re: Two late Bf 109 to identify:

Hello Guys,

Back on RT+?U.
A possible link with that one? (White number on nose)
Another Erla, isn't it?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

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Old 19th June 2012, 13:49
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Re: Two late Bf 109 to identify:

Yep, Erla for sure, but I can't see any identifying feature to call it a G-5. G-6 it's more likely.
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