hans vetter +++21.03.1943

[nikkel]

Hi guys,

Can anyone please provide details over the loss of Hans Vetter killed on 21.03.1943 and his brohter ?








thanks regards
Mike

[lilsis]

Hi,

The writer is the Brother/Sister from Hans, he crashed with plane And on the picture is too the Cousin/Vetter (Vetter Namen Emil, Emil is a Child from a uncle)

LG

[Brian Bines]

I could not find anything for 21-3-43 however GQM report dated 31-3-43 has on the 30-3-43 Do217 1443 of 2/NJG3 crashlanded at Wittmundhafen following engine fire 70% damage, with Bf Ofw Vetter injured.

[Andrew Arthy]

Hi,

Could it be Leutnant Wilhelm Vetter, Staffelführer of 1./Schlachtgeschwader 2, missing in Tunisia on 22 March 1943 after being shot down by anti-aircraft fire? He was from Swabia.

Cheers,
Andrew A.

Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com

[Brian Bines]

I got a PM from lilsis which says it translates as 'My brother Hans and his cousin (Vetter = old German for cousin) Emil. so only the first names of the two airmen is known. Was the photo taken in April 1943 but notes the brother being involved in a crash on 21-3-1943 ?

[lilsis]

Hi again,

It Seems moe to be a (Post) Card wrote in April 1943, Maked in Schluchtern (now Leinfelden by Heilbronn) at the side stand Fr. (shorting for Frau ? ) Selzer.

LG

[Matti Salonen]

No Hans was killed in 21. or 22.3.1942. However, in 20.3.1943 there were two:
1943-03-20, 2./JGr. Süd, Bf 109E-7, 6344, 11 rote
Lt Adam, Hans Flugzeugführer +
1943-03-20, FFS A/B 115, Ar 96B-1, 964096
Ogefr Diehl, Hans Flugschüler +

Matti

[Brian Bines]

Looking at the photo the man on the left is a Feldwebel of the Flight Section but I cannt make out his badge (Glider pilot ?) . The Obergefreiter wears the badge of a Beobachter, the silver(?) Transport mission badge plus EK1 and II. In conjunction with lilsis the writing translates to ''In remembering my brother Hans and cousin Emil - Hausern ? fatal crash 21-03-?? ''. If the card was written in April 1943 then the fatal crash would likely be 1943 if the photo was taken in April 43 then it would be a later year. Other writing shows copies were made in Feb.1945 possibly for a Frau Selzer of the Fw, possibly making him as being Fw Emil Selzer. Is anything known of such a crash on 21-3-43/44 in the Hausern ( or Klausern ) area of a Bo. Hans of the Transport Fliers,

Regards

Brian Bines

[Matti Salonen]

It is not "Hausern" but "Hans am 21.3." (Hans in 21.3.) as Mike wrote.

My explanation to the text on back side of the photo is:

Fr Setzer
Fw allein
2 x Vergr. 18/24
+ 6.K Zusammen
8/2 45

Possible translation:
For Mrs. Setzer 2 ea prints of size 18/24 cm only from Fw. Additionally 6 kopies of the whole photo. Ordererd (or to be ready) February 2, 1945.

I don't think, that this text has anything to do with the loss itself.

Matti

[lilsis]

Hi Matti, correct that i And Brian think too, mrs. Selzer let make copies. But another Question came up. Who say that Hans was Killed at 21.03.

For us it seems that a Brother or Sister from Hans wrote the first Text datet April 1943, then Maybe later this Person wrote " ist toetlich abgestürzt 21.03", but who Hans or Cousin Emil, Sometimes later ( 08.02.1945 Mrs. selzer) make the Copies


LG