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Old 22nd November 2005, 00:10
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Does anyone can ID the He 162 on the right of the photo?

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Old 22nd November 2005, 10:25
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Re: Luftwaffe im Focus no.7, page 23, photo 33

Actually two are visible side by side and probably non of them are M20 since they kept their fins and the fin from M20 is visible very close to Fw 190D-9 red 4 on others photos... and none of them are M23 since the camo is different... That's all i can say...

By the way looks to this ebay link before it closed. This one was wone for a little price probably because not advertised here on TOCH. The last photo show the 30mm gun bay as we never saw it before +++

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Re: Luftwaffe im Focus no.7, page 23, photo 33

Hi Marko!

As you can see on the pic on page 23 there are two He 162. Left isn't M 20, because I'm missing the M20 letters under the cockpit. The plane to the right could be the same as shown here: Maybe these planes are some more from the Heinkel Sued production in Vienna?

http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/fo...?showtopic=961

Scroll down to the pic 2: ( Luftwaffe Warbirds Photo Album Nb 6 )

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Re: Luftwaffe im Focus no.7, page 23, photo 33

Hi O.Menu,

I aslo tried to buy these pics but the price was too high for my small pocket.
The other pics from these series were sold for more than 100 Euros. Really interesting to see the unfinished 310020.

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Re: Luftwaffe im Focus no.7, page 23, photo 33

My previous post was done pretty quickly and from memory only.
After one night and some checks i change my mind:

1/ On the color photos the airplanes are side by side but on the JV44 Dora red4 B&W photo, planes are one over the others and so color photos are older than the later. (from captions May 45 for color photo and 1947 for the B&W).

2/ M20 got similar camo as the one visible on the color view and further more had same kind of black hole on nose right side and open bay rear from the cockpit.

>> So i really think that M-20 could be the one we see, the marking M20 is not visible since it's masked by the wing down on the earth. It's pretty easy to imagine that M20 will be pushed over the D9 red4 some month after this color view. (Note: 1/ Dora red 4 and red 1 are probably very near from each other, one in front a ju 88 and the other beside this probably same ju 88, need more checks to be sure 2/ Dora red4 is the one visible backward from the He 162)
>> The other He 162 is only partly visible, possibly no camo at all...

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Re: Luftwaffe im Focus no.7, page 23, photo 33

In Luftwaffe Im Focus # 8 are some new informations about this photos:
First the "red 4" was probably not a D-9 but a D-11 which was junked in Munich.
A theory is that the He 162 came from Lechfeld, were jet engines were tested.
He 162 were among the types tested there. Maybe the machines were flown
to Munich-Riem like some Ar 234.
A reader wrote in LIF forum that the Americans did not find any He 162 in Lechfeld.
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