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Old 16th February 2013, 20:27
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need info on english losses BoB

Hi to all,

i´m working on BoB english losses but I don´t find the serial numbers or pilots of these planes, maybe someone have some more data...

10/07/1940 Hurricane I 56Sqn ? safe Herne Bay nr. pilot believed spotted by Lysander V9545, rescued by fishing boat, ¿Rescued 10 miles N of Herne Bay?

12/07/1940 Hurricane I N2609 79Sqn ? ? ?

13/07/1940 Hurricane I P2991 263Sqn ? ? ?

18/07/1940 Spitfire K9990 611Sqn ? ? ? Crashed off IOW

19/07/1940 Spitfire ? 64 F/O Herbert John Woodward safe Folkestone damaged (wingtip damaged in collision after being attacked by Kolbow)

12/08/1940 Hurricane I ? 43 Charles Anthony "Tony" Woods-Scawen wia

11/08/1940 Hurricane I ? 238 Gordon Batt ? Isle of Wight area bellylanded - attributed to a Bf110


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Re: need info on english losses BoB

12-JUL-1940
Hawker Hurricane Mk.I
N2609
RAF stn Sealand, Cheshire UK
Taxi
Departure airport: Sealand
collided with a Miles Master

13/07/1940
Hawker Hurricane Mk.I
263 Sqn RAF
P2991
Carstairs Junction, SE of Lanark, Lanarkshire - United Kingdom
Departure airport: Drem, East Lothian.
The aircraft crashed while making a forced landing
F/Lt. W.O.L. Smith unhurt

18/07/1940
K9990 152S shot down by AA fire
from British Convoy aircraft
abandoned off IoW FH149.15
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Re: need info on english losses BoB

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Re: need info on english losses BoB

According to Halley, K9990 of No.152 Squadron was simply ‘abandoned after header tank collapsed 20 miles south of St Catherine’s Point, Isle of Wight,’ on 18 July 1940. The airframe was subsequently struck-off on 31 July. But my notes extracted from the No.152 Squadron ORB make no mention of the incident (odd in an otherwise well-compiled document) nor do I have any knowledge that this was as a result of naval AA fire. Can someone please confirm or otherwise ?

12 August 1940 43 Squadron, Tangmere Hurricane R4110. Returned to base with damage to engine and oil tank caused by return fire from He111s engaged over the Channel 12.45 p.m. Pilot Officer C. A. Woods-Scawen unhurt. Aircraft repairable.
I don’t believe WOODS-SCAWEN was wounded in this action. He was certainly flying next day.

I have no knowledge that BATT of No.238 Squadron forced-landed damaged on 11 August 1940 but the Squadron ORB confirms that he did so two days later:
13 August 1940 238 Squadron, Middle Wallop Hurricane P2989. Belly-landed at Eartham, near Tangmere, oil tank ruptured and cooling system damaged in attack by Bf 109 south of the Isle of Wight. 7.27 a.m. Sergeant L. G. Batt unhurt. Aircraft damaged but repairable.
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hi,
many thanks for your help

about 12/08/1940 Hurricane I ? 43 Charles Anthony "Tony" Woods-Scawen wia
i see in the date of one of the files
that some people send to me is 11-08-40
my mistake, sorry

the only loss i have in 12-08-40 is:
12/08/1940 Hurricane I R4108 43 ? ? ?


what are your sources?

if anyone want to exchange information
kreator1989@hotmail.com
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Re: need info on english losses BoB

That is correct. Source No.43 Squadron Operations Record Book.
12 August 1940 43 Squadron, Tangmere Hurricane R4108. Forced-landed Tangmere following action over the Channel 11.15 a.m. Sergeant A. L. M. Deller unhurt. Aircraft damaged but repairable.
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Re: need info on english losses BoB

hi,

i´m trying to fill many gaps in my BoB losses what i´m doing now.
I stop in 13.8.40 for having too much work because this is a hobby
and not pay my bills...
i used my info of internet, midlands books and info by Nick Hector...
many thanks
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Adolf Galland
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