JV 44 FW 190D9 red 13 w.n.

[FRANCESCO M LENTINI]

In these days my top book is naturally "FW 190D camouflage & markings" part one by Eric Larger and friends.
I agree with him about the findings that the most likely construction number of red 13 is wn 211040, but, I repeat but, the enlarged pic on the tail on page 29 in "Doras of the Galland circus" (this book is in the bibliography list) by J.Crandall leaves few doubts about wn. 213240. This wn is not in known production batches and also the pics seems too much retouched.
In conclusion: may be this an artifact due too powerfull zoom?

Thanks

Francesco M. Lentini

[judyc]

Hi Francesco;

The Werknummer for “Red 13” is 213240. We have photos including some new unpublished ones, that shows with no doubt, that the number is 213240. Unfortunately the third digit, the ‘3’ is hard to read because of a spot of camouflage on the tail fin. With magnification of the original photos, the number can be read. As far as the photo published in my book Doras of the Galland Circus, it was not altered or the number changed, it was simply digitally enhanced by Tom Tullis through the use of brightness and contrast so that it could more easily be read. But rest assured, the number was not changed in any way other than enhanced for legibility. You will have to ask Tom Tullis as to how this was done.
“Red 13” is not W. Nr. 211040 as this number was assigned to a completely different D-9, photos of which we will publish in my forthcoming book. In addition, “Red 13” does have some interesting details that will be presented in my book as well.
Cheers,
Jerry

[FRANCESCO M LENTINI]

Thank you for exhaustive reply miss Crandall.
I have just reserved one copy of your book from last summer in my book-shop and I am anxious to see red 13 new pics (and naturally also all the book).
I think that at this point we must consider the hypotesis that the Focke Wulf 190D fifth batch is not from 213xxx to 213100 but at least 213240.

Francesco M. Lentini

[SMF144]

Jerry or Judy,

What's the E.T.A. for your D-9 book? I hope we don't have to wait for August 2006 to roll around.

Thanks.

Stephen

[Jerry Crandall]

Hi Guys;
Thank you for your response and interest. We are still working very hard to finalize our book, but new material keeps coming in so we don't really have a definate answer as to an exact publishing date. We don't want to hurry to immediately publish it to compete directly with the JaPo books as we feel that would be unfortunate for all as we don't want to have the enthusiast to choose between the two books.
As soon as we have a publishing date, we will announce it.
Thanks again!
Cheers,
Jerry

[Eric Larger]

Hello all of you , Fw 190D-9 fans ,


The news about W.Nr. 211040 is very interesting, but it leaves some other questions open. As we mentioned, the majority of D-9s that we identified, is based on photographs, and official documents that were corrected / completed post-war.
Since W.Nr. batches are not “stand-alone” items, but result from an industrial process, W.Nr. 213240 points at a gap of 143 machines between W.Nr 213097 (“White 11” of 10.(13.)/JG 51) and W.Nr. 213240. Until now this series was considered to be the last Focke-Wulf production batch, and mainly built with sub-assemblies that had already been manufactured.
Also note that we marked “Red 13” as “211040 (?)” and not “211040” because we still hesitate that this is its correct W.Nr. The photographs in our collection do not permit us to be 100 % positive – this certainly does not mean that we are challenging the enhancement done by Tom Tullis. However, in view of some key characteristics displayed by “Red 13” we concluded that the attribution of W.Nr. 211040 would be more realistic.
With photographic evidence almost non-existing, we doubt that a single production batch existed, ranging from W.Nr. 213084 to 213240; however, the possibility remains that these very late D-9s may have been produced in 2 separate batches, one including W.Nr. 213084 and 213097, and the other including W.Nr. 213240.
In conclusion, we very much look forward to seeing the photographs of W.Nr. 211040 – we cannot be but happy that our mutual research is triggering such evidence, which in the end will lead to more, and more complete information, as well as better understanding of the entire subject. In order to keep this discussion alive, in approx. 2 weeks JaPo will dedicate a separate web page to “Red 13” at www.japo-publishing.cz , where the various studies, opinions, etc. can be aired.


All the best

Eric , Marc,Tomas & Japo Team