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Old 16th December 2005, 17:34
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Bf 109B-1 W.Nos. question

I am trying to reconstruct the batches of Bf 109B-1 aircraft delivered on RLM contracts. According to Lieferplan (Production Plan) No. 8 from July 1, 1938, a total of 363 Bf 109B-1 were produced. Messerschmitt delivered 76, Erla 175 and Fieseler 90. This should be well established facts. However, when comparing my Werkenumber batches with available references, this does not correspond. My data is based on original documents from Bundesarchiv Freiburg giving details on aircraft at various repair facilities up to July 1940. My finding are as follows:
W.Nr. 286 - 416 (28 aircraft identified) W.Nr. 419 is the first in a series of Bf 109D-1 aircraft.

W.Nr. 540 - 617 (12 aircraft identified) W.Nr. 619 is the first in a series of Bf 109D-1 aircraft.

W.Nr. 1013 - 1063 (15 aircraft identified). W.Nr. 1075 is the first in a series of Bf 109E aircraft.

W.Nr. 1712 - 1718 (4 aircraft identified). W.Nr. 1723 is the first in a series of Bf 109C aircraft.

W.Nr. 3001 - 3083 (32 aircraft identified). W.Nr. 3093 is the first in a series of Bf 109D-1.
Can anyone please help me to establish the correct sequences of the Bf 109B-1 production batches.
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Old 7th January 2006, 18:09
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Re: Bf 109B-1 W.Nos. question

Hello,

The book Messerschmitt Bf 109 Recognition Manual by Marco Fernandez-Sommerau gives 344 Bf 108Bs in the following ranges.

301-475, 1001-1079, 3001-3090

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Old 7th January 2006, 19:44
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Re: Bf 109B-1 W.Nos. question

Hey Seaplanes

In my own list I have found the following Bf 109 B:

272 - 412 build by Erla-Leipzig, 37 (first "D" was 415)
540 - 617 build by Erla-Leipzig, 37
1013 - 1070 build by BFW-Augbsurg, 37
1705 - 1719 build by BFW-Augsburg, 37 (the first "C" is possibility 1720 ?)
3000 - 3089 build by Fieseler-Kassel, 37

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Old 8th January 2006, 12:32
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Re: Bf 109B-1 W.Nos. question

I regret to say that I made a terrible mistake in my first påosting. The total number of Bf 109B to be produced is NOT 363, but 341. By mistake I included the 22 Bf 109A aircraft in the total.

So to the various production batches:
90 Bf 109B built by Fieseler: W.Nos. 3001 - 3090 or 3000 - 3089.

76 Bf 109B built by BFW: W.Nos. 1013 - 1070 = 58 aircraft
W.Nos 1705 - 1719 = 15 aircraft
This give only 73 aircrat. I believe that the
first batch should be 1011 - 1070, then we
get a total of 76 planes.
175 Bf 109B built by Erla: W.Nos. 272 - 412 or 416 and 540 - 617.
Tese figures give a total far too high.

Can somebody give well documented comments to these figures.
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Old 8th January 2006, 12:48
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Re: Bf 109B-1 W.Nos. question

There were only 30 a/c in the 540-617 block and only 9 in the 1701-1719 block
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Old 8th January 2006, 17:53
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Re: Bf 109B-1 W.Nos. question

To add my own data based on "schulen" losses

It seems that

295 to 312 are B
348 to 412 B
416 to 531 D
540 to 613 B
619 to 665 D
669 to 991 E
998 to 1063 B
1070 to 1671 E
1676 to 1717 B
1719 to 17.. D
1720 to 1777 C nd some D
1778 to 2061 E
2068 to 2309 D
2314 to 2437 E
2444 to 2476 D
2481 to 2513 E
2519 to 2621 D
2622 to 2663 E
2668 to 2696 D/E mixed
2696 to 2721 D
2723 to 2806 E
2855 to 2940 D
2941 to 2960 E
3001 to 3086 B
3092 to 3170 D
3174 to 5... E


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