Help with Fliegerschulen Signatories - Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

Richard Mills · #1 19th December 2013, 20:09

I am trying to identify these 3 Luftwaffe Fliegerschulen related signatories from a collection of documents.

1. Oberst und Kommandeur Gross Kampffliegerschule 3, 30-April-1940.

2. Major und Stelv. Kommandeur Gross Kampffliegerschule 3, 05-July-1940.

3. Oberst und Kommandeur der Fliegerschulen und Fliegerersatzabteilung 11, 01-November-1938.

Any help whatsoever will be very much appreciated.

Regards Richard.

gwdsoldat · #2 30th December 2013, 19:55

Hello Richard,
hard.
The documend was issued for Werner Schwarz, Obergefreiter.
I know not your question.
The name of the Oberstleutnant looks like "Simon".
The Mayor like "Hiller"
I'm sorry for much fantasie.

Best regards
Manfred

Larry deZeng · #3 30th December 2013, 20:57

Probably Obstlt. Fitzmartin SIMON, but there is no apparent fit for a HILLER.

L.

gwdsoldat · #4 30th December 2013, 22:03

Larry,
yes I know very difficult for me all open.
The Oberstleutnant name can also be "Simer"
The Majors name can also be "Priller".
It's only to given a small side of an idea.

Best regards
Manfred

gwdsoldat · #5 30th December 2013, 22:13

Richard & Larry,
I'm not a specialist about to know any Luftwaffe Officers and there signatures.
I am write what I read nothing more.

Best regards

Manfred

Richard Mills · #6 31st December 2013, 12:03

Manfred & Larry

Thank you both very much indeed for your help with this.

It certainly could be Fitzmartin Simon as the signature does represent the surname very well indeed.

As always, your help is very well received.

Regards Richard.

Larry deZeng · #7 19th December 2013, 20:40

For Item 1, this link should help:

http://www.ww2.dk/air/schule/ks3.htm

Larry deZeng · #8 19th December 2013, 20:45

For Item 3, this name may help:

CRANZ, Friedrich (Fritz). (DOB: 03.01.90 in Memel).
01.07.38 appt Kdr. d. Fliegerschule FFS A/B 11 und der Fl.Ers.Abt. 11 (later Fl.Ausb.Rgt. 11). 01.01.39 promo to Gen.Maj.

Larry deZeng · #9 19th December 2013, 20:58

In Item 2, the name looks like "AWinckel", but I have no record of a Major A. Winckel.

Richard Mills · #10 21st December 2013, 15:15

Larry

Thank you very much indeed for your help with this.

The identification of Friedrich Cranz is a very welcome input indeed.

With regards to the Gross Kampffliegerschule 3, unfortunatly http://www.ww2.dk/air/schule/ks3.htm does not list the Kommandeur over the period I am looking for.

Identifying the Stelv. Kommandeur is going to be very difficult I think.

Thanks for your help as always.

Regards Richard.