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Old 4th January 2014, 18:26
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Sgt Major Gunter Kammer or Krammer

I got this request from someone in England.

I wrote a post on my blog.

http://athabaskang07.wordpress.com/2...gunter-kammer/

Any help is most welcome.
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Old 4th January 2014, 18:28
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Re: Sgt Major Gunter Kammer or Krammer


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Old 5th January 2014, 12:15
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Re: Sgt Major Gunter Kammer or Krammer

Would this be Fw. Gunther Kramer of 1/JG77 shot down near Gravesend on 31-8-1940 ?
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Old 5th January 2014, 19:33
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Re: Sgt Major Gunter Kammer or Krammer

The only information I have is this...

http://athabaskang07.wordpress.com/2...own-over-kent/

Nothing more I am afraid.

Can you tell me more about that pilot?

Thanks
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Old 6th January 2014, 17:01
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Re: Sgt Major Gunter Kammer or Krammer

Mpierrela

Taken from Luftwaffe crash archives:
31 August 1940 Bf 109E-1 Wn 6092 marks: 5+ unit: 1./JG 77
Place: Shornemead Fort, Gravesend, Kent at 13.20H
While escorting bombers at 23000 ft to Hornchurch aerodrome this aircraft was attacked by a Hurricane, the controls and engine being damaged and the aircraft made a belly landing but started to burn and was almost completely destroyed. Markings: most of the nose appeared to have been painted yellow.
Pilot: Feldwebel Günther Kramer EK II badly burnt, POW

There are two photos of the Bf 109 after the fire had been put out and a note saying, the pilot had in his pockets Three receipts from shops in Aalborg dated 19th August 1940.

Cheers
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Old 8th January 2014, 00:01
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Re: Sgt Major Gunter Kammer or Krammer

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Taken from Luftwaffe crash archives:
31 August 1940 Bf 109E-1 Wn 6092 marks: 5+ unit: 1./JG 77
Place: Shornemead Fort, Gravesend, Kent at 13.20H
While escorting bombers at 23000 ft to Hornchurch aerodrome this aircraft was attacked by a Hurricane, the controls and engine being damaged and the aircraft made a belly landing but started to burn and was almost completely destroyed. Markings: most of the nose appeared to have been painted yellow.
Pilot: Feldwebel Günther Kramer EK II badly burnt, POW

There are two photos of the Bf 109 after the fire had been put out and a note saying, the pilot had in his pockets Three receipts from shops in Aalborg dated 19th August 1940.

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Stig
What is the meaning of... marks: 5+

31 August 1940 Bf 109E-1 Wn 6092 marks: 5+ unit: 1./JG 77
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Old 8th January 2014, 04:34
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Re: Sgt Major Gunter Kammer or Krammer

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Taken from Luftwaffe crash archives:
31 August 1940 Bf 109E-1 Wn 6092 marks: 5+ unit: 1./JG 77
Place: Shornemead Fort, Gravesend, Kent at 13.20H
While escorting bombers at 23000 ft to Hornchurch aerodrome this aircraft was attacked by a Hurricane, the controls and engine being damaged and the aircraft made a belly landing but started to burn and was almost completely destroyed. Markings: most of the nose appeared to have been painted yellow.
Pilot: Feldwebel Günther Kramer EK II badly burnt, POW

There are two photos of the Bf 109 after the fire had been put out and a note saying, the pilot had in his pockets Three receipts from shops in Aalborg dated 19th August 1940.

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Can you take a picture of the page from that book?
I won't post it on the blog.
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Old 8th January 2014, 13:40
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Update in my search

http://athabaskang07.wordpress.com/2...unther-kramer/
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Old 8th January 2014, 14:02
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Re: Sgt Major Gunter Kammer or Krammer

Might I urge caution? Although it looks likely that this could be your man, you do not have 100% proof that it was
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Old 9th January 2014, 14:39
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Re: Sgt Major Gunter Kammer or Krammer

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Might I urge caution? Although it looks likely that this could be your man, you do not have 100% proof that it was
Everything points at that direction.

I am only posting this on the Internet so someone might have known him.

http://athabaskang07.wordpress.com/2...unther-kramer/

There are not that many POWs with that name who were sergeants in the Luftwaffe shot down on August 31st, 1940, over Kent.

I am just trying to help someone giving this memento to a family member who might not even be able to read English.

I really appreciate all the help I have had on this forum.
I have been writing blogs about WWII since 2009. I have reached so many people with my stories it's hard to believe.

Thanks again,

Pierre
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