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Old 28th April 2014, 14:06
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Ju52/1m

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Junkers-Ju-52-di-Schwimmer-Wasserflugzeug-1-motorig-D-2133-Werk-Nr-4002-/221424338865?pt=Militaria&hash=item338deb47b1

Something quite new , the Ju52/1m is "pictured" always with same photo, wonder if Peter , is in the neighbourhood to give some data on that one

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Old 29th April 2014, 00:41
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Re: Ju52/1m

In my view, not really new. Ju 52 Einmotor

This be about fourth 1 motor configuration Ju 52 on photo sales sites in recent year or so - one was 4003 D-USON, but two of them had Luftwaffe Stkz. (BB+AW and PD+AT).

Apparently not this one (linked) that was not sold to Canada as CF-ARM (c/n. 4006 is reported for that) ... (4002) D-2133 ... used for tests and .... the second Ju 52 built (early 1931).

Karl Rais "Recherchen zur Deutschen Luftfahrzeuegrolle, Teil 1, 1919 - 1934" (Verlag Dieter Hoffmann 1977)
P.152 has "D-2133, Ju 52 di, 4002, 1 x AS Leopard, Ausland CF-ARM" but as noted abowe that was not same plane
and D-reg moved with this in error. My apologies. -ed.


Further to Ju 52 prototype (4001) D-1974 / D-UZYP / NL+KC (this is second source info, not verified that I know). Other I know very little about, were 4002 D-USUS, 4004 D-2317, SE-ADM, D-2317 again, D-UBES DVS and later to Luftwaffe. 4005 was D-2356. 4007 was D-UHYF but "converted" to 3 motor configuration. I read somwhere that these were not conversions, provision for wing engines was built in from the start.

The current CF-ARM in museum is "replica" - converted CASA C-352 to single motor configuration.

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Old 29th April 2014, 14:16
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Re: Ju52/1m

Hi Rémi,

the photo on ebay shows Ju 52 W-Nr. 4002 (D-2133) with Armstrong-Siddeley Leopard at Dessau-Leopoldshafen/river Elbe, Summer of 1931.

For more information on Ju 52/1m see here:
http://www.adl-luftfahrthistorik.de/dok/Ju52_1m.pdf
(in this strange language )

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Old 30th April 2014, 22:57
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Re: Ju52/1m

Many thks , Ed, for the explanation the planes were used during the war as 1-Mot ??? Or engined up ?? If you could post the pictures ...


BB+AW Wonder if BB+Ax was not used by Erpr.St. Rechlin

PD+AT I hv it with Weser Werke on june 1940 ..as PD+AR


Peter your "camerads" hv quite in-depth articles there, always wondered about capability of the Ju52 to fly with only one engine..,

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Old 1st May 2014, 01:39
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Re: Ju52/1m

No, they were still Ju 52/1m,with one motor.
No idea on their other use, except as written by Ott.
(Ju 52 not my special intrest, just as other Junkers)
I will send pictures to your email, still same?

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