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Old 3rd February 2006, 23:00
Gianandrea Bussi Gianandrea Bussi is offline
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14th FG P-38 lost on 15 june 1943

May anyone give me some informations about the fate of the P-38 of the 48th FS, 14th FG lost on that day (MACR 535)?
Did anyone saw the aircraft crashing? Was 2nd Leutnant F.W. Browne the pilot? Which was his ultimate fate?
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Old 4th February 2006, 00:08
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Re: 14th FG P-38 lost on 15 june 1943

Hi Gianandrea,

2Lt. F.W.Browne date of death is recorded as 15th June 1943.

Ref:ABMC

There were raids on Milo,Sciacca, Castelvetrano and Boccadifalco, Sicily as well as a raid on an airfield at Bo Rizzo and radio stations near Marsala.
PR recces were flown over the Italian mainland, Scicily and Sardinia.
This was from ref: Combat Chronology of the USAAF.

Hope this helps.

Alex

ps
P38's serial number was 43-2466
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Old 4th February 2006, 03:01
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Re: 14th FG P-38 lost on 15 june 1943

Gianandrea,
There were two P-38Gs lost on June ,15,1943 by the 14th FG.
The serial number of the other one was 43-2465 (one digit different!)
Are you still looking for the identity of the Italian captured P-38?

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Old 4th February 2006, 17:27
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Re: 14th FG P-38 lost on 15 june 1943

Alex and Carlos,
thank you for your answers.
Yes, I'm trying to collect some additional informations in order to identify
the P-38 landed at Capoterra on 12 june 1943.
Does anyone know anything more from american side about that episode?
The pilot became a POW and the aircraft - as each historian of Regia Aeronautica knows- was used shortly by R.A.

Thank you in advance.

PS: the aircraft had Squadron code painted on the tail boom but it had been covered by darker paint by the italians. From a picture the code could be LM or UN (respect. 71st and 94th FS) but it's not sure because the paint has already covered it when the picture was taken. However, the documents contained in the microfilms of the AFHRA records of these two units (and of the other units of the 1st and 14th FG) don't mention this episode at all.
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Old 5th February 2006, 21:05
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Re: 14th FG P-38 lost on 15 june 1943

Hi,

From a book I had at Xmas.

Lockheed P38 Lightning in Italian Service, by Marco Mattoli.

Has a couple of photos of this P38 in Italian markings and also has the date you mention, 12th June 1943 as the date the US pilot landed at Capoterra near Cagliari, Sardinia by mistake.

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Old 6th February 2006, 00:33
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Re: 14th FG P-38 lost on 15 june 1943

Gianandrea,

I've wondered about the identity of this P-38 ever since buying "Stranger in A Strange Land" in 1989!
Perhaps the other P-38G lost on June 15,1943,sn 43-2465, is the correct airplane? Another possible way is to find a listing of USAAF personnel taken POW during this time and doing a process of elimination.
Too bad the 14th FG has never published a Group history.
Someone had some speculation that the plane was flown by a ferry squadron but no information has surfaced.

Carlos
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Old 1st August 2007, 00:41
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Re: 14th FG P-38 lost on 15 june 1943

Hi,
Gianandrea, Long time since we heard from you. Have you found anything out that's new ?
The "2278" could be just a red herring or even a Lockheed A.C Serial number without the "122" or "322".
But with a now certain Date and time it should not be long. I expect that some know of its true ID already but are keeping quiet.

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