VVObdL Ju88T remains from the Thames Estuary...

[Chris Going]

If everyone else missed this, my apologies. In the summer of 2012 dredging in the UK Thames Estuary recovered from a single location 300+ fragments from an aircraft including a BMW 801 powerplant, VDM propeller, and debris including Nitrous Oxide boost controls, fragments of a FuG 25, and an aerial camera plate. These strongly suggest this is remains of a VVObdL Ju 88T T9+FH 0678 shot down during a sortie to photograph the Marconi works at Chelmsford on April 20th 1943. Interestingly a second VDM propellor, from a different a/c, was also recovered.

A little about this is now published in Gane, T., and Scott, G., 2014 'Archaeology from the Sky, The Air War Over the Thames Estuary'. DP World, London Gateway, Wessex Archaeology (ISBN 978-1-874350-78-1). A pdf can be found on the www.londongateway.com website.

Best, Chris.

[Chris Going]

Site a bit hard to navigate from there:

try

http://www.londongateway.com/media/c...web4client.pdf


Chris

[edNorth]

I presume it had two BMW 801 engines and two VDM props.
The Ju 88 was basically twin engine.

W.Nr. 0880678 was originally an Ju 88 A-5 version. (Thus not an Ju 88 T). Official loss has it as D-6, but (I think) it was an Ju 88 C-7 Zerstörer-Recce Experimental (an conversion).

0678 Ju 88 C-7´ [T9+FH] 1.(V)/Ob.d.L.” (Luftflotte 5)
OPS (F) rep downed by enemy fire (100%) unk location (Chelmsford) [was downed near Chelmsford, Essex, Britain] 20.04.1943 (F Lt. Hans Bäumer mis/rep ´killed´ in f/05.05.43 ~ rep POW in England c/26.06.43, Lt. Paul Hunold and Ofw. Hermann Dietz mis/rep KIA f/05.05.43)

Regards
Ed

[Brian Bines]

T9+FH shot down from high altitude by Lt. M Eriksen in a Spitfire of 322 Sqd. on 20-4-1943. Combat 5 miles off Clacton, crew baled out at 1145 hrs, pilot rescued and treated in Brighlingsea hospital with burns (severe?). Mission recon. to Chelmsford

Brian Bines

[edNorth]

Chris Going: pdf does not show and corresponding report does not appears be there.
I can not find it.

Ed

[Chris Going]

Seems to have got truncated, Ed: try

http://www.londongateway.com/media/c...web4client.pdf

Nox controls have written/painted instructions which supports a conversion.

Chris

[edNorth]

Ok, got this on second try.

But I raise (some) doups as to this be the correct (aircraft type). Items could wery well be from Ju 188 F-1 (Recce, BMW 801) as GM-1 also could be fitted to this types BMW 801 engines, but as two (or more) wrecks are intermixed, hard to prove.

No real airframe parts are shown in pdf, just "items" (not type specific). Most minour airframe parts or fittings was same on Ju 88 and Ju 188 series, and many (most) were older Ju 88 designed. I have quite a few many Ju 88 part numbers (8-88.xxx.xxx ) in Ju 188 docs!

Ed

[Denniss]

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/aufkl/b1vers.html
Loss is listed there as C-7

[edNorth]

Thanks, have amended (abowe)!

[Matti Salonen]

I have this Ju 88 T-1, 430678. Probably got this info from NVM. I have no info on the loss of 0880678.

Matti