Japanase Fw 190 A-5

[Milos Gazdic]

Guys,

Is there a photo of the Focke Wulf Fw 190 A-5 in Japanese markings showing its tail completely?

I am wondering if the aircraft arrived there with the whole tail including rudder in RLM 76 or rudder could have been possibly RLM 04 / Yellow if the aircraft sent was not new one (it obviously had yellow lower cowling) or would there be any other reason to assume that the rudder was yellow...

Additionally on one of the three photos I know of the aircraft showing it from 10 o'clock there seems to be a "yellow" leading edge on the wing from root till pass outer MG. Considering that Japanese applied some of the stencils in Japanese - I wonder if they have done this too?

If you have any additional info (W Nr. and similar) please share.

Best,
Milos

[ChrisMAg2]

Hi Milos,

to my very knowledge, there are no photos, like what you are asking for. I found the majority here.

A summery of published articles on that matter are here. Interessting might also be this. But so far -and to my limited knowledge- no details.

[edwest2]

Thank you for all that information. Here is a review of a Hasegawa kit that might help a little.


http://web.ipmsusa3.org/content/bf-1...e-army-service




Ed

[Milos Gazdic]

Hello Chris!

I can see your icon is still the same after all these years of my absence!
How you've been? These 7-8 years have brought quite a few changes into Luftwaffe circles when it comes to camouflage research... discoveries of quite a few new previously unseen photos and so on... and as I can see closure of LEMB, which saddens me a lot.
BTW - do you have an email of Peter D Evans?

Anyhow, back to topic:

I've been studying those photos available on the net out of which I have two printed in some of my books. It's such a pity that we don't have any photos showing aircraft's tail! There could easily be some Japanese markings there and we will not know until we see the photos published (if ever).
For time being I will leave my model's tail (1/48 scale) in RLM 76 with just few light mottles. Airframe was not heavily mottled (although it was quite stained) and as such I believe same thing should apply to the tail surfaces.

I strongly believe that leading edges of the wings were painted yellow on FW 190 just like they were on Bf 109... at least according to one of the photos available.

My model is almost done now... Will be adding the yellow on the wings and painting the Japanese markings (I've just cut the masks)

Best,
Milos

[edwest2]

Here is some additional information for researchers - hopefully authentic.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-J...item5b2801ab64





Usual disclaimer,
Ed

[ChrisMAg2]

Thank you, Ed, much appreciated.

Reg your last comment, do you have doubts on the authenticity of these papers?

I would also have some doubts, but I cannot actually specify my doubts. This is more like a gutt feeling. It just appears to be too good to be true.

[Orwell1984]

Biography of John Ide:
https://launiusr.wordpress.com/2016/...e-wwii-europe/

[edwest2]

Thank you for the bio. I won't bore anyone with the size and scope of intelligence gathering operations and personnel in the European Theater and the Pacific. I am not an expert in all German documents but if this is an original Focke-Wulf document, a few things to consider: A) It had to be cleared after reading and classified, B) The Germans and Japanese had a program called Yanagi where technology and goods were traded or bought by either side during the war. As far as I know, all of this was done using submarines. C) Tons of original German documents ended up in the United States. D) If this document was microfilmed and the former owner was allowed to keep it, I'd like to see the cover and any indication that it was cleared for release to this person.

I'd like to add that some German documents can be viewed by the public at archives or other designated institutions. The fact is, there are still a substantial number of German documents that remain classified to this day. Their location is not known. I have read about "private collections" but cannot verify this. Yes, original photos and documents still turn up and this may be one of them. I don't know.


Ed

[Snautzer]

information no wrk nr.

[Snautzer]

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