JG1 on 27 December 1944

[canonne]

Please,
what were the JG1 casualties on 27 December 1944?
Thank you.
Phil.

[Kaczmarek]

Hello Phil.

the J.G. 1 lost 15 a/c on these day. Are you interested in specific ? Three of it in the Dinand/Vielsalm area. One POW and two MIA.

Rgds,
René

[ClinA-78]

Dinant (Belgium)

ClinA-78

[canonne]

Bonjour,

René and ClinA-78 :thank you for your assistance. 15 losses !? That was a very important air battle. Studying the story of JG 103 and JG 105 in France (above all in Châteauroux) 1943-1944, I focus on the front line life of the pilots who trained there. For the 27 December 1944 air battle : I would like to know who was the victims of LT Elmer N. Fiery (364th FG) who claimed 2 Fw 190 destroyed and one damaged in Frankfurt area, the air combat starting at 5000.
…. probably Uffz. Uffz. Helmuth Riehl ? and … ?
Any information would be greatly appreciated !

Phil.

[focusfocus]

Bonjour

Haupt.Hans Ehlers shot down(K) :Berenborn (187 km by road of Frankfurt)
Fw.Herbert Mehl shot down (K)inant
Oblt.Eduard Millers (P)inant
Lt.Johannes Birnbaum (K)inant
Uffz.Adolf Schiller (P):Acht near Mayen
Lt.Gottffried Just (K)inant
Uffz.Ernst-Adolf Schaumbergurg (W):Behndorf near Koblenz
Ofhr.Gerhard Stiemer (W):Todenfeld/Rheinbach
Fw.Wolf Oswald (K)inant
Oblt.Walter Porsch (K)inant
Uffz.Heinz Borreck (K):Niederkassel
Lt.Richard Forster (K)inant
No Name inant
No Nameinant
No Nameinant
Gefr.Emil Franzke (K):Platz Plantlunne 5/JG1
Fw.Albrecht Kirschner (W):Platz Plantlunne

Uffz.Helmut Riehl (W):Bocholt
Bocholt in Germany or in Belgium ?

Total=18 losses
Very difficult to say who shot down who.
Good Luck

Michel

[focusfocus]

Excuse me for the icons on Dinant,I don't known the BAD manipulation that I made!!!!
Encore désolé
Michel

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by focusfocus

Excuse me for the icons on Dinant,I don't known the BAD manipulation that I made!!!!
Encore désolé
Michel

You could always use the "edit" button at the bottom right of your post.

[canonne]

Michel,
I just tried to research a good English word for the translation of the French expression « bouche bée » … « mouth agape » ? « beyond words » ? Whatever ! Your assistance is very precious, very important for me. I understand that – it is common – such air battle – is very difficult to. To compare carefully each victory and loss reports. Situation changed so fast …
Michel, Each of your information is a very good track ! So I have to know more also on Allied side.

How can I acknowledge you !

I do appreciate such icons which are symbolics of the difficulty of this study !

So Bocholt ? …

Thank you very much indeed !
Phil.

[Kaczmarek]

Some add./corr.

Hptm. Hans Ehlers - Bereborn, 13 km NE Daun
Fw. Herbert Mehl - Adenau area
Uffz. Adolf Schiller - Hohe Acht near Mayen
Lt. Gottffried Just - Adenau area
Uffz. Ernst-Adolf Schaumburg
Fw. Wolf Oswald - 100 m W Adenau
Oblt. Walter Pörsch - Adenau area
Lt. Richard Förster
Gefr. Emil Franzke - Fl.Pl. Plantlünne
Fw. Albrecht Kirschner - dito

Kaczmarek

[hanshauprich]

Hello,
this battle was fought over the Motor Racing Aera Nürburgring, for both sides an well known landmark in the Eifel. Most of the 190 crashed in that aera.
Ltn. Eduards Millers (he was one of the few none german pilots!) was wounded and used his parachute. He spent the rest for the war in an hospital. In the 1970's he lived in Venezuela. Most of the fallen Flugzeugführer rest at Adenau War Cemetary. I'm for sure that no of the JG 1 ever reach the Dinant aera!!
h.