Werner Schroer

[Teresa Maria]

Dear All,
Was Werner Schroer wounded or not?
In De Zeng and Stankey's database I have found the following:
SCHROER, Werner. (DOB: 12.02.18 in Mülheim/Ruhr). (RES, DKG). Summer 1937 joined the
Luftwaffe. 03.11.37 trf to 4./Flieger-Ers.Abt. 24 (Quakenbrück). 01.07.38 trf to 7./JG 234
(Düsseldorf). 13.08.38 trf to Fliegerhorst-Kp. Düsseldorf. 01.07.39 trf to II./JG 26 – Schulstaffel
Düsseldorf. 01.09.39 trf to Aufkl.Fl.Schule Hildesheim. 16.10.39 trf to Flugkommando 23.
16.05.40 trf to 1./JFS 1. 22.07.40 trf to Erg.JGr. Merseburg. 23.08.40 trf to 2./JG 27. 01.10.40
promo to Lt. 21.04.41 Lt. in I./JG 27 WIA - Bf 109 E-7 (White 3) in a collision during combat, crash
landed at Ain-el-Gazala. 01.03.42 Adjutant I./JG 27 (to 30.06.42). 01.07.42 Oblt./Hptm., appt Staka
8./JG 27 (to 19.04.43). 10.08.42 awarded the Ehrenpokal. 09.09.42 (21.09.42?) Lt., awarded DKG,
III./JG 27. 20.10.42 Lt., awarded Ritterkreuz, Stafü 8./JG 27. 11.02.43 Lt., 8./JG 27. 29.03.43
Hptm., appt acting Kdr. III./JG 27 (to 19.04.43). 20.04.43 Hptm., appt Kdr. II./JG 27 (to 13.03.44).
02.08.43 Hptm., awarded Eichenlaub, Kdr. II./JG 27. 06.09.43 Hptm., Stab II./JG 27. 29.11.43
Hptm., Stab II./JG 27. 01.12.43 promo to Maj. 07.01.44 Maj., Stab II./JG 27. 25.02.44 Maj., Stab
II./JG 27. 14.03.44 appt Kdr. III./JG 54 (to 20.07.44). 20.07.44 trf to
Verbandsführerlehrgang/Gen.d.Jagdflieger as Lehrgangsleiter (to 14.02.45). 04.08.44 shot down
unhurt. 14.02.45 Maj., with, appt Kommodore JG 3 (to 08.05.45). 19.04.45 Maj., awarded
Schwerter, Kommodore JG 3. 05.45 became POW of the British. 02.46 released. Credited with 114
air victories in only 197 combat missions. †10.02.85 in Ottobrunn/Bayern or possibly in Munich.

So, in August 1944 he was shot down unhurt, and nothing is mentioned about May 1944.
On the other hand, John Weal says:
'With Major Schroer currently undergoing hospital treatment...' (in May 1944)
https://books.google.pl/books?id=I4i...chroer&f=false

Was he wounded, or did something else happen to him?
Thank you in advance.

[Spanferkel]

I have Schroers Wehrstammbuch and among his awards he does not appear to have been awarded a wound badge.

That said the WSB does not appear to be complete to the end of the war so it is possible he was awarded a WB and it was just never entered.

Jeremy

[Teresa Maria]

Dear Jeremy.
Thank you very much for your answer. If he wasn't wounded, maybe he was actually ill...? I wonder whether someone knows the answer.

[Spanferkel]

Might be something listed in his WSB I'll take a look and let you know if I find something.

Cheers
Jeremy

[Teresa Maria]

Thank you very much. Maybe it will actually be listed there. :-) Anyway, I'll be waiting.

[Johannes]

Hi Teresa

Off subject Schroer was a genuinely nice guy. Probably the second best Luftwaffe pilot in Afrika(after Marseille). Also note he was an honest claimer.

Kind Regards

Johannes

[NickM]

Originally Posted by Johannes

Hi Teresa

Off subject Schroer was a genuinely nice guy. Probably the second best Luftwaffe pilot in Afrika(after Marseille). Also note he was an honest claimer.

Kind Regards

Johannes

Yes...he had a VERY good strike ratio (number of vics vs the number of sorties he flew); and one time I saw him interviewed in the 'Whirlwind' episode of the famous 'World At War' series from the early 1970s. He told a story about leading his green pilots against an 8th AF raid & he them to 'close their eyes' so they couldn't see the tracers fired at them. Oh and he spoke incredibly good & dare I say, 'urbane' English-that surprised me at the time.

[Teresa Maria]

Dear Nick,
Thank you very much for the aditional information about Werner Schroer. It is very interesting and he seems to have been a fascinating person.
(As for my original question, it will probably remain unanswered.)

[Leo Etgen]

Hello

Many thanks to all for this very interesting thread. I noticed that according to the scans of his flight book that I have seen online he served with Fr. Fl. S.G. Ouedlinberg from 29 June 1944. Does anyone have some additional information about this unit? Is the loss list information available for the aircraft was he flying when he was injured on 4 August 1944? I have seen it mentioned as a Bf 109 and other times as a Fw 190.

http://aufhimmelzuhause.com/id240.htm

Horrido!

Leo

[NickM]

Originally Posted by Teresa Maria

Dear Nick,
Thank you very much for the aditional information about Werner Schroer. It is very interesting and he seems to have been a fascinating person.
(As for my original question, it will probably remain unanswered.)

Thank you for your reply;

Oh and I seem to be having some problems with your request...I will work on that to the best of my tech limited abilities.