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Old 8th March 2018, 12:07
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Information sought on 5. Staffel, Minensuchgruppe 1

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I am researching a Flugbuch to a Bordmechaniker who flew with 5./MSG 1. There seems little information available on this unit and I wondered if anyone else has researched this Staffel.

'My' man is Bordmechaniker Oberfeldwebel Werner Petersen, who served with KGr. 126 in the Battle of France and Battle of Britain, then moved to KG 53 for Barbarossa, being awarded the Ehrenpokal (11th May 1942) and DKiG (14th November 1942). In July 1943 through to April 1945 he was with Minensuchgruppe 1. Most of his time was with 5. Staffel flying over the Baltic. (detonating his last mine on his last recorded flight on 13th March 1945).

During his time with MSG 1, Petersen flew regularly with pilot Oberfeldwebel Brauneis but I have been unable to find further details for Brauneis. My spelling of his name may be a bit away as Petersen's writing is not always easy to read.

One point of interest I have noted is that at least one collector has award documents to a crewman from MSG 1 and he was awarded Operational Flying Clasps for Reconnaissance Crew but Petersen was awarded the Operational Flying Clasp in Gold with 200 Hanger for Bomber Crews while with 5./MSG 1 (5th November 1944). I wondered whether this unit was something of an anomoly and therefore crew continued to be awarded whatever type of Clasp (i.e. Bomber or Recce) that they had when they transferred into MSG 1.

Any information on 5./MSG 1 will be gratefully received. I am happy to exchange information.
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Old 8th March 2018, 15:34
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Re: Information sought on 5. Staffel, Minensuchgruppe 1

Hi Tim

The 5./MSGr.1 was set up in 1942 and renamed on 01.03.44 to 5./MS-Staffel.
I know the following bases:

-16.05.44-23.07.44 Vaerlöse/DK
23.07.44-18.08.44 Aalborg-West/DK
18.08.44-28.09.44 Stettin-Altdamm
28.09.44-07.10.44 Vaerlöse/DK
07.10.44-15.10.44 Rygge/N
15.10.44-28.10.44- Oslo-Fornebu/N
- .12.44-23.03.45 Aalborg-West/DK

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Old 8th March 2018, 16:24
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Re: Information sought on 5. Staffel, Minensuchgruppe 1

Thanks Jochen.

I would be very glad to find out more names of crew and to see if Petersen flew with any of them. There seems to be very little reliable information on 5./MSG 1.
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Re: Information sought on 5. Staffel, Minensuchgruppe 1

I have only a fragment.


https://www.asisbiz.com/Luftwaffe/msgr1.html


A bit more about Oberfeldwebel Petersen.


https://www.tracesofwar.com/persons/...sen-Werner.htm




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Old 8th March 2018, 19:28
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Re: Information sought on 5. Staffel, Minensuchgruppe 1

Thanks Ed.

I provided the information to Traces of War, so I have that already. Thank you anyway.

Thanks for the information on MSG 1. It is interesting to see the number of aircraft available. Petersen certainly flew in a lot of aircraft carrying different codes!
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Old 8th March 2018, 19:47
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Re: Information sought on 5. Staffel, Minensuchgruppe 1

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Thanks Ed.

I provided the information to Traces of War, so I have that already. Thank you anyway.

Thanks for the information on MSG 1. It is interesting to see the number of aircraft available. Petersen certainly flew in a lot of aircraft carrying different codes!

You're welcome, Tim.


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Re: Information sought on 5. Staffel, Minensuchgruppe 1

Beware that the Nowarra book it filled with errors. Probably the worst of his writings.

5/MsGrp 1 arrived at Kastrup Denmark june 1943. End 1943 it moved to Värlöse. In june 1944 the unit was split up between Vaerlöse and Aalborg-West. The StKptn went permanently to Aalborg from august 44. This situation was the same 5 may 1945 as the war ended. During this time different Kdo were sent out to other locations, but the parent unit stayed in Denmark.

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