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Old 14th December 2019, 19:57
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Looking for document with statistics of combat claims in Coastal Command during WW2

Hi,

Fighter Command´s combat claims are listed in Combats and casualties, Vol I to lll (AIR 16/960-962) and Statistics of Combats and Casualties in ADGB., Fighter Command and 2 TAF; Vol 4 (AIR 24/653).

Bomber Command´s combat claims (air to air) are listed in Monthly Supplementary Narrative of Operations (AIR 14/3433 and AIR50/294 but several months are missing at the NA).

Is there any document with statistics of combats claims in Coastal Command during WW2? I searched the files in AIR 15 but could not find any matching title but these can be misleading (I would never have guessed that Bomber Command´s Monthly Supplementary Narrative of Operations had this information based on the title).

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Old 15th December 2019, 01:04
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Re: Looking for document with statistics of combat claims in Coastal Command during WW2

I made a note of all combats in the Coastal Command Intelligence Summary but later in the war, a number were not listed
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Old 15th December 2019, 04:10
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Re: Looking for document with statistics of combat claims in Coastal Command during WW2

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I made a note of all combats in the Coastal Command Intelligence Summary but later in the war, a number were not listed
Chris,

Andrew Bird, in his, Coastal Dawn - Blenheims in Action from the Phoney War Through the Battle of Britain/London/Grub Street/2012/pp.212-213, has the following:

APPENDIX I - Confirmed Claims by Coastal Command Blenheim Fighter Squadrons in 1940 (Courtesy Chris Goss)

The claims (10 April 1940-31 October 1940), are listed by, Date, Time, Aircraft, Sqn, Claim and Location.

Could you identify the documentation you consulted to compile the above listing? I mean the NA File/reference number/s. Are they simply Combat Reports, or something else?

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Re: Looking for document with statistics of combat claims in Coastal Command during WW2

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These were a series of books held by the AHB which I copied by hand 15 years ago
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Old 15th December 2019, 12:24
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Re: Looking for document with statistics of combat claims in Coastal Command during WW2

Thanks for your replies.

Chris: Are the Coastal Command Intelligence Summary the same as Weekly intelligence summaries now found at the NA (AIR AIR 15/255-258)?

Based on the Bomber Command´s Monthly Supplementary Narrative of Operations I see two main advantages if a corresponding document can be found for Coastal Command:
  • Monthly Supplementary Narrative of Operations only includes claims officially accepted at Command level (many claims made in combat reports were rejected or downgraded).
  • Combat reports are missing and combats were not always included in the ORBs but basic information can still be found in Monthly Supplementary Narrative of Operations.
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Re: Looking for document with statistics of combat claims in Coastal Command during WW2

Couldn't say for sure as I had the actual documents 15 years ago at the AHB not what might be at the NA
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Old 16th December 2019, 20:22
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Re: Looking for document with statistics of combat claims in Coastal Command during WW2

Andy,

When it comes to the Strike wings I know who to contact. Will you follow up A Separate Little War with a book on the Dallachy Wing?

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Old 20th December 2019, 20:48
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Re: Looking for document with statistics of combat claims in Coastal Command during WW2

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When it comes to the Strike wings I know who to contact. Will you follow up A Separate Little War with a book on the Dallachy Wing?

Regards,
Peter
Hi Peter

Keep being told Coastal's a niche market. Sales in UK extremely poor were as Australia, Canada and New Zealand there on the rise. Have started completely reworking A Separate Little War as its 17 years old, and will be retitled for 2020.

Currently writing 'Beaufighter' for Amberley Publishing - (appreciate they don't pay well - but have to try and earn an income as I'm newly single) they'll be a piece about North Coates, Langham and Dallachy.

Plus another four maritime related for Amberley.

Frontline Images of War Series - Beaufighters over Norway and Mosquitos over Norway on the cards. Although have too finish 'Berlin 1945 - 1948 - Birth of a Nation' and 'Berlin Women under Bombardment' for Autumn 2020.

Dallachy has to be done, but with advances of 1500 going to see if James Holland or Rob Lynham can recommend a lit agent.

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Re: Looking for document with statistics of combat claims in Coastal Command during WW2

Hi Andy,
have you seen this book, RCAF
by Terry Higgins

http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNe...o-Soldier.aspx

Buffalo Soldier, The War patrols of F/O.Allan Bundy & 404 Squadron
I really like your books, have bought both of them, look forward to more

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Hi Andy,
have you seen this book, RCAF
by Terry Higgins

http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNe...o-Soldier.aspx

Buffalo Soldier, The War patrols of F/O.Allan Bundy & 404 Squadron
I really like your books, have bought both of them, look forward to more

Best wishes
Bruce Lander
Hi Bruce, Belated Season Greetings.
Thank you for your appreciation changed writing style for Heroes of Coastal by Frontline. Unfortunately an over zealous designer ran in the original first rough draft of notes and sources, then forgot to send a final proof. Fortunately had paper trail.

Yes, need to contact Terry in New Year about an unofficial 404 diary thats surfaced.

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