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![]() Please try to ID this one probably US-bomber (name a/c: "Chatt box" , date from doc. as below:
Hitted by Flak battery on 7.10.1944 Thanks in advance. Kris
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Re: US-bomber aircraft to ID
"Maybe" one of those?
Chatterbox 100 serial 42-102502 Chatterbox 351 510 serial 42-31899 Chatterbox II 351 510 serial 42-102955 Source: 8-17 NOSE ART NAME DIRECTORY by WALLACE R. FORMAN |
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Re: US-bomber aircraft to ID
From the FortLog: https://www.91stbombardmentgroup.com...ID/FORTLOG.pdf
42-102502 Del Cheyenne 9/3/44; Gr Island 29/3/44; Dow Fd 7/4/44; Ass 100BG Thorpe Abbotts 7/4/44; tran 339BS/96BG [QJ-G] Snetterton 8/4/44; MIA Politz 25/8/44 w/Chas Jennings, Styrlin Scogin, Delmar Woodruff, Don Merrill, Dewitt Deckert, Bob Bowers, Wayne Henley (7KIA); Ed Whitelaw, Gene Weiss (2POW); flak, cr Hagen, nr Stettin, Ger. MACR 8283. CHATTERBOX! 42-31899 Del Denver 3/1/44; Kearney 13/1/44; Ass 510BS/351BG [TU-B] Polebrook 29/2/44; MIA {19m} Ludwigshafen 27/5/44 w/Harry Peters, cp-Honor Windes, n-Dick Miller, b-Ferris Martin, ettg-Bill Konkel, ro-Vee Taylor, btg-Walt Gilliam, wg-Willie Vandenberg, wg-Ray King, tg-Reed Moulton (10INT); flak KOd #3, then e/a attack, f/l Dubendorf, Switz; MACR 5332. CHATTERBOX. 42-102955 Del Cheyenne 22/4/44; Kearney 2/5/44; Dow Fd 20/5/44; Ass 510BS/351BG [TU-P] Polebrook 23/5/44; 509BS [RQ-L]; b/d Plauen 19/3/45 w/?; f/l continent, Sal; {72m} RetUS Bradley 29/5/45; 4168 BU Sth Plains 1/6/45; RFC Kingman 19/12/45. CHATTERBOX II. Last edited by RSwank; 22nd October 2022 at 19:12. |
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![]() Thank You all ,
could I ask about Report: 3047 MACR # 8283 / Ger. MACR 8283 ? Contact: Huball25@poczta.fm BR Kris
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Re: US-bomber aircraft to ID
MACR is here: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/91051020
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Re: US-bomber aircraft to ID
If the date was Oct. 7 1944 it could be 44-8046 (457BG) shot down by Flak on the mission to Politz (now Police in Poland) which is very near where the remains were found in a lagoon at Szczecin (Stettin) at the mouth of the Oder river.
The problem is it wasn't apparently named. I can't find the document Kris mentioned. 42-102502 came down near Stettin but the date is wrong; there's also a "Politz" near Lubeck, Germany. But this WAS a "Chatterbox". see "www.notesfromPoland.com" and the 457th web-site "www.457thbombgroup.org". for info on 48046 loss. Nick |
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Re: US-bomber aircraft to ID
The German report (image 33 on Rolland's MACR) lists 2102502 as "OJ-G" (should be "QJ-G") and the name as "CATERBOX" with a naked woman (?). The wreckage would be hard to identify. Crash was 1km S. of Hagen, 18kms NNW of Stettin at 1318. Date was certainly 25 Aug. not 7 Oct.
Regards Nick |
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Re: US-bomber aircraft to ID
MACR 9767 for 44-8046: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/91079138
Article Nick mentioned on the notesfrompoland link: https://notesfrompoland.com/2022/09/...-polish-coast/ |
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Re: US-bomber aircraft to ID
Good Morning Kris,
96th B.G. / 339th B.S. / B-17 G-50-BO Fortress / # 42-102502 / „Chatterbox“ / Shot by Flak - 4./schwere Flak-Abteilung 337 (o) + 1./4./schwere Flak-Abteilung 325 (o) + 6./schwere Flak-Abteilung 137 (o) + schwere Flak-Abteilung z.b.V. 10262 + schwere Flak-Abteilung z.b.V. 10264 / Crashed 1 Km south of Hagen (Tatynia), 18 Km north-northwest of Stettin (Szczecin) - Provinz Pommern (Poland) / 2nd Lieutenant Charles E. Jennings / 7 KIA/MIA / 2 POW All the best Fred |
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Re: US-bomber aircraft to ID
PS: Date of the crash was clear August, 25th 1944
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