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Old 10th December 2006, 17:38
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Luftwaffe Liberator Claims in the M E in 1942

Hi,
Just what were the aircraft that were shot down by the Luftwaffe and claimed as B24 Liberators in the M E in 1942 ?

From Woods lists -
3/4-5-42 - 1

12-6-42 - 1
15-6-42 - 1

7-7-42 - 1
9-7-42 - 1

21-8-42 - 1
29-8-42 - 1

7-9-42 - 1
16-9-42 - 1

4-11-42 - 2
15-11-42 - 3

14-12-42 - 1

Total Claims 15

RAF and USAAF losses in the M E in 1942 according to BL in the ME & Med vol 1
and 8th & 9th AAF losses v 1 are
For the above dates -

3/4-5-42 - AL511 (RAF) Shot down.

12-6-42 - ?
15-6-42 - AL553 crash landed on return ? non combat loss(RAF)

7-7-42 - ?
9-7-42 - ?

21-8-42 - ?
29-8-42 - ?

7-9-42 - ?
16-9-42 - 41-11883 reduced to salvage after non battle damage (USAAF)

4-11-42 - ?
4-11-42 - ?
15-11-42 - ?
15-11-42 - ?
15-11-42 - ?

14-12-42 - ?

From the BL book there were other losses but not linked to the above dates.
From the 8th & 9th AAF losses book there are others also as above.

Such as

29/30-6-42 - B24 HALPRO (USAAF) Shot down by Flack.Capt. F. E. Nestor.

2-7-42 - AL552 (RAF) Training, crash landing.
3-7-42 - AL542 (RAF) U/c collapsed on landing.
*9/10-7-42 - B24 HALPRO (USAAF) Shot down by 109's.(41-11600 ?) Capt. K.W. Butler.
13/14-7-42 - B24 HALPRO (USAAF) S/D by Flak.(41-11618 ?)1Lt. C.O. Brown.
*15-7-42 - AL566 (RAF) S/D by fighters over target.
18/19-7-42 - AL554 (RAF) out of fuel force landed.
23-7-42 - AL534 (RAF) FTR most of crew pow.
23/24-7-42 - B24 41-11615 (USAAF) Capt. C. Fountain, out of fuel crew bailed over base.
31-7-42 AL553 (RAF) soc this date.

1-8-42 - B24 (USAAF) 41-11601 2Lt. H.N. Sturkie, undershot landing , crashed.
6/7-8-42 - AL580(RAF) U/c collapsed on landing.
19-8-42 - AL509 (RAF) Taxiing accident.
24-8-42 AL537 (RAF) Hit by Flack.

16-9-42 - B24 41-11883 (USAAF) 345th Bomb Sqdn, reduced to salvage non battle damage.

6-10-42 - B24 (USAAF) ?????Lt.White & crew bailed 1st mission .
11/12-10-42 - AL603 (RAF) U/c collapsed on landing. DBR.
27/28-10-42 - AL548 (RAF) Shot down. Flack ?

15-12-42 - AL513 (RAF) out of fuel in bad weather.Force landed, interned.
30-12-42 - AL520 (RAF) Hit hill en route India.

8th AAF
9-9-42 - 41-23713 Lost F/Flt Gander /Scotland.
9-10-42 - 41-23678 Shot down Lille.
29-10-42 41-23712 Crashed Somerset.
7-11-42 - 41-23710 Crashed Exeter.
8-11-42 - 41-23723 Landing accident.
18-11-42 - 41-23745 C/l Little Stukely.
24-11-42 - Lost Gander/Scotland.
2-12-42 - 41-23674 Taxiing acca/c repaired.
6-12-42 - 41-23786 Shot down a/c ditched.
7-12-42 - 41-23707 Cr into mountain Tafaroui.
12-12-42 - 41-23744 T%/O acc Oran,Algeria.
13-12-42 - 41-23909 Landing acc Bone, Algeria.
21-12-42 - 41-24010 Lost after Trinidad.

Other HALPRO a/c lost in June 42 were
41-11609;41-11622;41-11597;41-11596 all interned in Turkey.While 41-11629 was lost on her 1st mission on the 6-6-42.
AND
41-11592;41-11794 (c/l at forward base 9-8-42);41-11766( crew bailed 4 of 10 killed 9-8-42);41-11624 and 41-11625 were all condemned in late 42.

So what did the Luftwaffe shoot down on the dates given in the first part above ?
AND
Have I missed any out ?

Alex

Last edited by Alex Smart; 10th December 2006 at 20:02. Reason: Continous cut off when writing mail's out of time when ready to post
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Old 10th December 2006, 17:40
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Re: Luftwaffe Liberator Claims in the M E in 1942

Alex:

It would appear that your message got cut off as you posted;

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Old 10th December 2006, 17:59
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Re: Luftwaffe Liberator Claims in the M E in 1942

Hello Nick,

Always is when I finnish and post it is usiualy out of time and lost so have to start all over again. so now I do it in small parts and use edit to do my post .Also have to log in again each time.
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Old 10th December 2006, 20:11
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Re: Luftwaffe Liberator Claims in the M E in 1942

Hi Alex,


09.09.42 - B-24 Halpro 41-11600 Eager Beaver s/d by 1/JG27.


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Old 10th December 2006, 20:18
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Re: Luftwaffe Liberator Claims in the M E in 1942

Hello Robert,

Thanks for responce but isn't it the 9th July ?
is your date a typo error ?

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Old 10th December 2006, 20:34
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Re: Luftwaffe Liberator Claims in the M E in 1942

Yes, my fingers were too fast. BTW I have on the 15.06.40 B-24 from the 160 RAF sqn. s/d by Bf109. Perhaps your B-24 from 15.07 marked with red star is typo error?

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