Uffz Sawallisch JG 27

[Alain57]

16/05/1940
Me Bf-109 Flak 100%
2./JG 27
Uffz Sawallisch Otto (KIA)

Does somebody knows the crashsite ?

hi,im reading aircraft of aces and some other book ive seen this name, but try to find name at back index not mention,but as i like france blitz,battle of france and britain,ill let you know when i read again the books,,
gary,

[Bruce Lander]

Hello,

Otto Sawallisch was not killed when his Bf109E-3 crashed in Belgium, he went on to serve with JG.27 in Africa, he was thought to have committed suicide on August 19th 1942 due to possibillity of court martial arising from questions about false claims
The reason for his crash in Belgium on 16 may 1940 is "DCA,atterrissage force" noted in "Les pertes de la Chasse allemande de jour en Belgique 1940 - 1945 Tome 1" by Pierre Watteeuw
Cheers
Bruce Lander

hi, just read aircaft aces book, yes sawallish, killed 41.thats were i saw the name i was lookin through my 50+ aircraft, books to find him, yes ,he was killed in afrika.
gary,

[Rob Romero]

Guys,

Otto Sawallisch (2 Claims with 2/JG27 -one on 1 Jun 1940) does not appear to have been the same pilot as Erwin Sawallisch (36) who flew with JG77 (a 4/JG77 claim on 13 Jun 1940) and later infamously with 4/JG27 in 1941.

Incidentally, Erwin Sawallisch (36) has at least 3 Verified Victories. However, of his 17 claims in Afrika none have been Verified (though at least one is possible) and 11 have been identified as Overclaims -one researcher who has generously shared data with me has characterized at least 10 of his last 14 claims as “Pure invention”. I hope this provokes an in depth discussion of this pilot and the allegations surrounding him and his schwarm. Does anyone remember the other pilots of his infamous schwarm and can someone post a photo of Sawallisch and his schwarm mates?


Rob Romero

[hihotte]

Holá Rob,
as usual the "old faithfuls" have to step in to keep the thread going. I have posted a photo and you'll find the names of the entire "Schwarm of the Liars". What I will find about them I send you by e-mail so you can continue the discussion. I am fed-up with this discussions where posters feel to come up with their personal opinions and disregard the facts.
Cheers
Horst
P.S.
Did you find anything in your "Aces databank" regarding Hans Phillipp as per my e-mail request?

[Franek Grabowski]

Well, Christopher Shores is well awared of deficiencies of his book (well, there were co-authors as well), but obviously there cannot be so many omissions to completely distort the general view.
I am afraid it is another sample of proving a politically biased thesis at all cost.

[Nokose]

I've become curious about the 3 Verified claims mentioned at the first of this thread for Erwin Sawllisch. Where they in the west? Besides the two I-153's claimed over Leningrad that were possibly the ones lost from 71IAP KBF there might be another. It seems that Erwin Sawallisch shot down a MiG-3 over Kishinev on 15Jul41. St. Lt. Alexander Pokryshkin of 55IAP crashed his MiG-3 approx. 50 km west of that location in the swamp in Grozeshti (see BOOK post for Denes Bernard's "From Barbarossa to Odessa). Possible?

[Leo Etgen]

Hello Nokose

Wood's files list six victories in the west for Feldwebel Erwin Sawallisch with 4./JG 77 through 1939-1940. These were:

1. 30 October 1939 Blenheim 15:23 NE Helgoland
2. 14 December 1939 Wellington 15:28 N Wangerooge
3. 14 December 1939 Wellington 15:30 N Wangerooge
4. 30 April 1940 Wellington 20:50 SW Stavanger
5. 13 June 1940 Skua 2:10 Trondheim
6. 8 September 1940 Hudson 19:45 Bergen

I hope that this helps.

Horrido!

Leo

[Nokose]

Leo, Thanks for that information. I checked in the "Fledgling Eagles" by Christopher Shores and found the following for Fw. Erwin Sawallisch II/JG77.
30Oct39 Blenheim IV (N6234) Plt Off W.G. McCracken 139 Sqdn
14Dec39 two Wellingtons 99 Sqdn
30Apr40 Wellington 37 Sqdn
13Jun40 Skua 800 or 803 Sqdn
08Sep40 Hudson (N7268) 224 Sqdn

It also had that he had 3 victories from the Civil War in Spain.