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Old 3rd July 2007, 04:17
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From Barbarossa to Odessa (Luftwaffe Strikes Pt 1)

Has anyone got this book yet? I tried to order in through Amazon.com and today they said they wouldn't be getting it any time soon. I checked other U.S. sites on line and it's not there either.
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Old 3rd July 2007, 04:33
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Re: From Barbarossa to Odessa (Luftwaffe Strikes Pt 1)

hi, check amazon.co.uk, I just placed an order from a seller the_book_depository there.
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Re: From Barbarossa to Odessa (Luftwaffe Strikes Pt 1)

The book has just been printed, currently is being bind.
It should be officially released by the end of this month.

I'll keep you updated (there is already a separate thread related to this book).

P.S. For anyone interested in a signed copy, I will have a limited number of copies available. Contact me via PM.
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Re: From Barbarossa to Odessa (Luftwaffe Strikes Pt 1)

Here is the planned cover of the book:

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Re: From Barbarossa to Odessa (Luftwaffe Strikes Pt 1)

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Approximately when should we expect the second volume to be published?
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Re: From Barbarossa to Odessa (Luftwaffe Strikes Pt 1)

Vol. 2 should be out by the end of this year.
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Re: From Barbarossa to Odessa (Luftwaffe Strikes Pt 1)

Hello Phil
I generally agree with You with following exceptions, Bf 109F and Ju 88A were better than comparable Soviet aircraft and numerous I-15bis and R-5 a/c were obsolent.
IMHO SB(-2) wasn't as good as Blenheim, that was why Finnish AF equipped its Maritime sqn with them and not with Blenheims. Finns used both and Blenheims were used only in bomber sqns.
And IMHO Spitfire V was better fighter than Yak-1 or early versions of LaGG-3 but not markedly so. But Pe-2, DB-3F/Il-4 and Il-2 were good planes if one had good fighters to escort them.

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Re: From Barbarossa to Odessa (Luftwaffe Strikes Pt 1)

Very interesting and challenging topic. I will jump in later on.
However, it should be discussed in a separate thread in another sub-forum, not here.

Before that, let's remember that on the Southern Front there were no Yak-1s, Il-2s or Yer-2s at the start of Operation Barbarossa.

There were indeed so-called "new types" (e.g., Pe-2, Su-2), that were equal to most German types in service in mid-1941, but their number was rather small (IIRC, I even gave a percentage of about 25%). More in the new thread.
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Re: From Barbarossa to Odessa (Luftwaffe Strikes Pt 1)

This is purely political bias of the author. Of course Soviet 'modern' designs were not as obsolescent as eg. Gladiator but they were not in in the class of Western aircraft of the period. One of the tricks is to compare aircraft of different periods. Yak-1 or LaGG-3 went into production at the end of 1940, so they should be rather compared to such aircraft like Mustang, Airacobra, possibly Fw 190. Also, Spitfire Vs were markedly superior to Soviet designs, as testified by successes of 57 GvIAP on Kuban in 1943.
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This is purely political bias of the author.
Just to be clear, Franek, please mention which author are you referring to.
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