German spies parachuted into Britain

[Chris Goss]

Why is this in the Allied section? Was he a double agent, perchance?

[paulmcmillan]

The secret war with Germany: deception, espionage, and dirty tricks, 1939-1945‎ by William B. Breuer

"Yet another German spy parachuted into the Manchester Ship Canal in Lancashire and drowned. His espionage career in Britain had lasted less than five minutes"

Deceiving Hitler: double cross and deception in World War II‎ by Terry Crowdy

"The first of these was an unfortunate fellow who avoided capture by landing in middle of the Manchester Ship Canal near the Mersey estuary on the night of 7 September 1940 and was drowned."

[Brian]

Hi sceptics!

Paul has provided part answer for Achtam

Nick - you've been watching too much TV!

Chris - because I had no luck in the Luftwaffe section!

No inference to being a double agent, but someone living in the Manchester area just might have some knowledge!



Cheers
Brian

[Chris Goss]

I wonder if there are any other Boards out there that might be better suited as strictly speaking, espionage has a loose connection to 'Luftwaffe & Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum'?

[paulmcmillan]

Originally Posted by Brian

Hi guys


Hubert Kurt Sachsel - arrived 22/7/40

Maybe,.. See London Gazette for 31 March 1939 Issue number: 34612
Page number: 2191
or search for BRITISH GLYCERINE MANUFACTURERS

[paulmcmillan]

Originally Posted by Brian

Hi guys


Hans Reysen - ??

Code Name= GANDER Dropped Northampton dropped either night of 3/10/40 or 4/10/40

See also

http://www.zamboodle.demon.co.uk/rss/guy.htm


I think Guy Lindell has info mixed up... He is refering to Reysen but has 'Karl Grosse who I assume is Kurt Goose - arrived 10/10/40 name! I also think everyone asumes Goose = GANDER.....

[paulmcmillan]

Originally Posted by Brian

Hi guys


Joseph Dombret - arrived 5/10/40

Cheers
Brian

I think this actually may the Belgian Lt Dombret of the Belgian General Staff sold Germany Belgium's secret plans for defense long before the war broke out

[Brian]

Hi Chris

I'm enquiring about agents parachuted into Britain by He111 or Do215 of 2/Aufkl.ObdL, or those flown over via He115s of KuFlGr.906 from Norway - surely a strong aviation connection!

As someone else wrote on another thread - you don't have to respond if you're not interested!

With due respect and apology! That's another beer you owe me when we meet!

Cheers
Brian

[paulmcmillan]

I must admit I am starting to wonder if the 'Parachutist death' may me a bit of mis-information.... and while all other German Spies have been 'identified' this has never...

Would be interesting to see if a body was recovered

As some some of the published data does not 'match up'.... and some spies were captured and 'just vanished' and not executed or put back to use as double cross.. I just wonder if this may have be an elaborate ruse to fool the germans some way... Just a thought...

There are a couple of other instances of German spies being caught which I can't pin down to and indivual namely...


"Three of the anonymous members of the Lena Team managed to drop to their pinpoints, bury their parachutes, and make their their separate ways undetected almost to their destinations.

One of them reached London but was caught the day he got there after his first dinner in a Soho restaurant; he handed the waitress some food coupons for his for his meal. The Abwehr did not know that none was required in British restaurants..


The other came a cropper when buying a railroad ticket for Bristol, the city to which he had been assigned. The clerk told him that the price was "ten and and six," and the police were called when the man handed over ten pounds and six shillings.


The mystery man of the team — the "Dutch refugee" called "Jan Villen Ter Braak" (actually Engelbertus Fukken) in his phony papers phony papers — was found shot dead in a deserted air-raid shelter in Cambridge. He must have been killed or committed suicide shortly after his arrival, for he still had the familiar suitcase with his belongings and his Afu set.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_Ter_Braak

[Chris Goss]

Ah.........this is a better place for it rather than Allied Aircraft related. This is what I meant-are we talking aircraft or spies and it would appear that concensus is the latter. Don't worry, I will not hold you to that beer (I do not like Greene King-Rayments is much better)