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Old 27th May 2010, 10:47
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Re: 4 more Ju88 A-17 june 1944

All my thanks !

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Old 27th May 2010, 11:29
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Re: 4 more Ju88 A-17 june 1944

Salut Claude,

Olaf Lübke survived the crash and became POW. I'm in contact with him from time to time and about 6 weeks ago i was visiting him. I'm working on the missions of KG 26 and KG 77 in the mediterranean area and specially southern france, as i spent almost all my hollidays in this area. But of course, i collected also information about missions in the "north".

He was writing a small report about this mentioned mission, i will copy it for you. Can you read/translate german text?

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Old 27th May 2010, 11:37
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Re: 4 more Ju88 A-17 june 1944

Salut Lino

my knowledge of german is not fantastic but I can read it.

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Old 27th May 2010, 17:01
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Re: 4 more Ju88 A-17 june 1944

Hi Claude,

Brian seems to be right, the report from Olaf Luebke names also the Flak fire coming from 3 destroyers as reason for the loss of AC. Left engine was hit and burning, later also the tail unit was damaged, so they had to do an emergency landing in the sea at about 23.15h.

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Old 29th May 2010, 00:15
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Re: 4 more Ju88 A-17 june 1944

Wow, this is great information guys! Love filling in the 1944 'holes' in my database. Thanks for this great thread - wish we could get more like it. I do have one question. Does anyone by chance have a WNr. for the 9./KG 26 loss for Lüpke (or Lübke per Schmidt's 'Achtung-Torpedos Los!') on 18-Jun?
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Old 29th May 2010, 09:02
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Re: 4 more Ju88 A-17 june 1944

Hi,
i have the NVM somewhere about the loss of the AC. Correct spelling is Olaf Lübke.
I'll look for it the afternoon.

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Old 29th May 2010, 10:45
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Re: 4 more Ju88 A-17 june 1944

Hi Jim,

Olaf Lübke Ju 88 A-17, 9./KG26, 1H+LT: WNr: 801 371

Another one from 7./KG 26 on the same NVM to fill your DB:

Ju 88 A-17 1H+CR, WNr. 822 592, Attack on invasion fleet, crashed in sea 18.06.1944 in the Seine-Area, Crew missing,
(FF Fw H. Böse, Beob. Gefr. H. Amtmann, Bf Obgfr. W. Hörner, Bw. Uffz. H. Schlefers)

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Old 29th May 2010, 11:52
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Re: 4 more Ju88 A-17 june 1944

Hello Lino,

Have you the WNr of 1H+CP of 6/KG26 shot down north of Cherbourg during the same night ?

and WNr, Staffel, code of plane of Uffz Bütner (wounded), Jansen (killed),
Staüdel (killed) and Ogefr Braukmann (wounded), shot down 19 june by intruder over Valence airfield while coming back from mission on Channel.

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Re: 4 more Ju88 A-17 june 1944

Büttner (2 ts) was not shot down according to the NVM and the Wk Nr only is handwritten in as 8230?? They were 4 Staffel.
CP's Wk Nr is 801396
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Old 30th May 2010, 23:35
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Re: 4 more Ju88 A-17 june 1944

Not sure I'm contributing to anything already known, but according to Schmidt, the crew of these aircraft were as I entered into my db:
Ju 88A-17
, 822592, Böse, Fw. Heinz, , 7., KG 26, , 1H+CR, , , 18-Jun-44, MIA with crew, cause unknown., , Invasionsraum, TOCH; Schmidt, Achtung-Torpedos Los!, p.366, , Raum Seinemündung, 100%, F, B Gefr. Heribert Amtmann, Bf Obgfr. Wilhelm Hörner & Bw. Uffz. Hubert Schlefers, ,
Ju 88A-, 801396, Naser, Uffz, Hans, , 6., KG 26, , 1H+CP, , , 18-Jun-44, MIA with crew, cause unknown. Bs POW., , Kanal, TOCH; Schmidt, Achtung-Torpedos Los!, p.355, , nördlich Cherbourg, 100%, F, B Ogefr. Gerhard Bleul, Bf Ogefr. Willi Weber & Bs Uffz. Urban Dieringer, ,
Ju 88A-, 8230??, Büttner, Uffz. Siegfried, , 4., KG 26, , , , , 19-Jun-44, WIA, cause unknown, during return from sortie. B & Bf KIA, Bs WIA. Luftkampf with intruder?, , Kanal, TOCH; Schmidt, Achtung-Torpedos Los!, p.355, , über Fl.Pl. Valence, 100%, F, B Uffz. Heinz Jansen, Bf Uffz. Johann Stäudel & Bs Ogefr. Karl Braukmann, ,

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