1940 - Who, what, where and when?

[Andy Saunders]

Thanks Chris!

Knew I'd seen one somewhere.

He certainly looks very similar, but hard to say 100%.

[Andy Saunders]

Originally Posted by hihotte

Hi Andy,
I am not so good with JG77 but with your approval I will send the Raisinger Photo to a "buddy" to obtain more info.
BTW Kracker has Raisinger coming down at Telscombe, Sussex. See attached excerpt.
Research is going on.
Cheers
Horst

Horst

By all means - and thank you!

Yes, Telscombe would be a more accurate location probably. From memory I think it was near the Balsdean Pumping Station - to the north of Saltdean, but possibly in the parish of Telscombe.

As the crow flies (or rather the Messerschmitt!) its about 2.5 miles from Lewes, so fits the "near Lewes" description quite well.

[hihotte]

Hi participants,
I come back to the identification of persons and attach cut-outs of Andys images, where the Jagdfliegerfuehrer 2, Oberst Hans Bertram von Doering can be clearly discovered.
Last night I went thru the Biography of the late former GFM Milch (rise and fall of the luftwaffe) to find out the exact location on the french channel coast, where this event has happened, but could not find anything. What do we have so far: The meeting has been attended by top brass Luftwaffe personal. Milch, Udet, von Doering, Coeler (Kdr 9.Luftdivision), Trautloft...and the occasion has happened in 2nd half of september 1940. There must be further leading details available, I think. I will go on.
Cheers
Horst

[Snautzer]

I think i saw something like this in a wochenschau. I will see of i can find it again.

[Andy Saunders]

Horst

Something makes me think of the Le Touquet area when I look at that building. I may be wildly out, of course, but its not unreasonable to assume that is somewhere between Wissant, say, and Le Touquet anyway.

It would be terrific to identify the building - as well as more specifics of the event.

Oh, and I remain of the view that the image of the man on the beach could certainly be Karl Raisinger. The similarity is striking.

[hihotte]

Hi Andy,
do you have the comparable photo, which Chris mentioned and could you post it, or shall we wait for Chris to post it?
Horst

[Andy Saunders]

Horst

All I could do would be to scan the photo from Chris' book (page 190 of 'Luftwaffe Fighters Battle of Britain') but am reluctant to do that unless Chris is happy.

Otherwise, he might be able to post the photo when he gets back.

[hihotte]

Andy

That is ok for me. Other question: Would you allow me to post one of your images over to LBB (Luftwaffe Bullet Board hosted by Bert Hartmann). There are mainly german speaking members but I am convinced that I could get answers of a)location b)date of the event c)ID of some more persons d)comparible photo of Karl Raisinger.

[Andy Saunders]

Originally Posted by hihotte

Andy

That is ok for me. Other question: Would you allow me to post one of your images over to LBB (Luftwaffe Bullet Board hosted by Bert Hartmann). There are mainly german speaking members but I am convinced that I could get answers of a)location b)date of the event c)ID of some more persons d)comparible photo of Karl Raisinger.

Horst

No problem.

Be my guest - and good luck!

Andy

[hihotte]

Andy, LBB was a hit. Date: 19. September 1940, location: beach of Wissant, list of important or well known attendants: Galland, Moelders, Luetzow, Pingel, Schellmann, Jopien all Fighter Pilots of JaFue 2. Identified: Lt Werner Pichan Kalau vom Hofe,Stab JG54, Oblt Guenther Scholz, III.JG54. Karl Raisinger Photo is under research.
There is a little story behind the exercise, interested? Than I have to translate it...
Cheers
Horst