Walter 'Graf Pinski' Krupinski Me 109 G-5 W.Nr. 110 244

[Oberst]

Hello all,

I was wondering what information can be provided of Krupinski's mount Me 109 G-5 W.Nr. 110 244. I read on an web article it was all over RLM 76. Any fotos of this aircraft? As always, many thanks.

[Jim P.]

Bf 109G-5, 110244, KRUPINSKI, Hptm. Walter, 197, II., Stab II., JG 11, , , , , 12-Aug-44, Gr.Kdr. Injured due to engine explosion. FSA., RK, EL., FR, Prien & Rodeike, JG 1 & 11, II, p.1196, , bei Marburg, 100%, F, , ,

Do you have the URL to the web article? Without photographic evidence as to the all over RLM 76 of his machine, any comment as to same is speculative at best.

[Oberst]

Hello,
It was a comment I read on another website. Would be interesting to know if it was true or not.

[Charles Bavarois]

Hello Oberst,

Bf 109 Werknummer 110.244 was a Baureihe G-5 from Erla-Leipzig production. It was damaged 55% on 44-03-03 at Erla-Delitsch due to belly-landing after engine malfunction. As the otherwise very complete listings of acceptance dates filed at Erla have no entry for this plane, we can assume the crash was prior to official BAL-acceptance.

This a/c was reported damaged 60% again 44-08-12 piloted by Krupinski. The Baureihe was marked as G-6 in WASt. This may be a hint that the badly damaged plane was repaired after March 44 and altered to the G-6 standard (as II/JG 11 never mentioned the "AS" in its loss-reports, it also may be a G-6 AS from Erla-Antwerpen).

Looking at the fotos in Priens Geschwader-Chronik, II/JG 11 certainly had a lot of all-grey Bf 109 AS in spring 1944, but most of them were quickly given some more dull camo. After heavy losses in Normandy the Jagdgruppe was reposted to the Reich 44-07-06 for rest and refitting. In July the Gruppe was allocated 21 Bf 109s from repair, Krupinskis a/c probably being one of these. At that time, aircraft at II/JG 11 had the familiar dull-grey camo. It is very unlikely, that Kurupinsi plane was painted bright grey in August 1944.

Regard

Carl

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by Charles Bavarois

As the otherwise very complete listings of acceptance dates filed at Erla have no entry for this plane, we can assume the crash was prior to official BAL-acceptance.

Maybe ... but the acceptance record of this a/c (like many other machines in this batch and other batches) was reported as "lost". It was demanded for duplicates but these were never written (or recorded). On the other hand ... the listing is quite complete but not "complete" complete. That' s the reason why you didn't find any entry for this plane.

Best regards
Rasmussen

correct spelling: Delitzsch

[RT]

That plane is reported as Wn 39049 the house's system of Erla, the same day the Wn 39051 was lost quoted as an G-6, is 39051 the 110246 ??


Rémi

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by RT

That plane is reported as Wn 39049 the house's system of Erla, the same day the Wn 39051 was lost quoted as an G-6, is 39051 the 110246 ??
Rémi

Are you sure? The W.Nr.39051 was lost on 03.03.1944 and not 12.08.1944. It was indeed an normal G-6.

Regards
Rasmussen

[RT]

W.Nr.39051 was lost on 03.03.1944 and not 12.08.1944.


Right 0n 3.March, like the 39049, nd has 39049 was 110244, wonder if 39051 was 110246...

Rémi

[NoNo01]

Just as a side note,

the nickname of Krupinski was "Graf Punski" not Pinski.

Have a nice day

Norbert

[Rasmussen]

There is an mistake in your documents because the 110224 wasn't the 39049 but the 34049 ...

Best regards
Rasmussen