eBay: unknown beute? aircraft to identify

[ianatheling]

On ebay here is an aircraft which has defeated my attempts to identify it. Solutions will be much appreciated.

Ian

[Ian Jewison]

Not 100% sure but is it an Italian Saiman 202M/204?

/Ian

[ianatheling]

Thanks, I think that it could be Italian, but doesn't appear to match the Saiman 202/204 photos that I have seen.

Ian

[ianatheling]

I have just carried out a little more research and think that this could be Nardi FN.316, several of which were in Luftwaffe hands after the Italian surrender...But I cannot find any clear photos to confirm this.

Ian

[borborygm]

Has been identified on LEMB as Percival Vega Gull

[ianatheling]

Many thanks, this was not familiar to me, but a quick check of available photos certainly confirms it.

Cheers
Ian

[Stig Jarlevik]

Ian

Without checking what LEMB says there seems to be two possibles here,c/n K.65 and K.93 both ending up in Sweden strangely enough...

Cheers
Stig

[ianatheling]

Thanks Stig,

I seem to have come across two Gull's in my research. One appears to have come to Luftwaffe use via the British embassy in Berlin, while the other appeared a year later from Belgium. I assume that these might be the two you are refering to. Unless more photos appear which can be clearly identified aircraft as the same as this one then I guess we cannot be sure which one this photo is.

Cheers
Ian

[Stig Jarlevik]

Hi Ian, yes you are correct there were more than two.

I was in a bit of a hurry yesterday and took a short cut...
Known aircraft are

K.65 was PH-ATH which had been captured in 1940 when Germany overran the Netherlands.
K.70 was G-AFBO which was the one used by the Attaché in Berlin. That one was seized at Tempelhof in September 1939
K.93 was G-AFIM which had been abandoned at Le Bourget in late May 1940 and again sized by the Germans.

Possibles are also all those French deliveries where we have no known fates except knowledge they existed either in December 1939 and/or during the phoney war period...
K.21 which was F-AQCF
K.24 which was F-AQEA
K.25 which was F-AQMZ (reportedly canx 23.5.1940 as destroyed)
K.37 which was F-APEX
K.38 which was F-APIG (reportedly destroyed June 1940)
K.40 which was F-APIL
K.43 which was F-APHX
K.53 which was F-APXA
K.61 which was F-AQBV
K.81 which was F-AQEN

Cheers
Stig