Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Reviews > Books and Magazines

Books and Magazines Please use this forum to review or discuss books and magazines.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 6th February 2012, 04:06
edwest edwest is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,612
edwest is an unknown quantity at this point
Junkers Ju-87 by Eddie Creek

Scheduled for August.



http://www.amazon.com/Junkers-Ju87-D...8493758&sr=1-2





Usual disclaimer,
Ed
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 9th August 2012, 19:56
edwest edwest is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,612
edwest is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Junkers Ju-87 by Eddie Creek

According to the Stone & Stone web site, this book is now available.






Usual disclaimer,
Ed
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 9th August 2012, 21:22
Dénes Bernád Dénes Bernád is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hungary
Posts: 1,885
Dénes Bernád will become famous soon enough
Re: Junkers Ju-87 by Eddie Creek

I just received the book yesterday. I flicked through it, and it's a typical Classic Publ. work, high quality, but in my opinion not reaching the level of Hs 129 Panzerjäger! by Martin Pegg, for example. More, later on.
__________________
Dénes
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10th August 2012, 02:21
Jim Oxley's Avatar
Jim Oxley Jim Oxley is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Culcairn, NSW, Australia
Posts: 644
Jim Oxley is on a distinguished road
Re: Junkers Ju-87 by Eddie Creek

Any book dealing with the Ju 87 is a must have as far as I'm concerned. I'll buy it!
__________________
"Somewhere out there is page 6!"
"But Emillo you promised ....... it's postpone"


ASWWIAH Member
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10th August 2012, 06:32
Jukka Juutinen Jukka Juutinen is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,195
Jukka Juutinen is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Junkers Ju-87 by Eddie Creek

I have browsed through a copy. Denes's description is very spot on, i.e. the book is very similar to other Classic books by Creek & Smith duo, though this one has the name of Creek on the cover only.

Now, any potential buyer read the following with the caveat that I am mostly interested in technical and handling aspects of the aircraft and little interested in combat chronicling!

To me the book is a slight disappointment. E.g. it does not have any performance analysis, no performance curves, no real battle damage resistance analysis and so on. There are no reproductions of test reports (Eric Brown's reminiscences don't count as one). While there a numerous detail photos, most of them are on the early models while the D-series gets a much lesser treatment. There are manual drawings, but there is e.g. no bombload vs. range comparison. There is no detailed comparative technical and performance analysis of the Ju 87 vs. other dive bombers. And quite oddly, given that Ju 87´s structural strength was great, but I could not find any mention on the actual g limits and ultimate strength factors.

In short, compared to e.g. Chris Vernaleken's Ju 388 or Petrick et al's book on the Bf/Me 110/210/410 books, this book is seriously lacking. In comparing dive bomber type monographs, e.g. Peter C. Smith's book on the Vultee Vengeance is superior in its concept.
__________________
"No man, no problem." Josef Stalin possibly said...:-)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 27th September 2012, 20:54
Peter Achs Peter Achs is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Thuringia
Posts: 249
Peter Achs is on a distinguished road
Re: Junkers Ju-87 by Eddie Creek

For those who speak German:

I wrote a small review of this book in a German board. It's a slating!

The book is a disaster and full of mistakes.

Regards
Peter

Last edited by Peter Achs; 27th September 2012 at 21:40. Reason: link
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 28th September 2012, 10:49
Jukka Juutinen Jukka Juutinen is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,195
Jukka Juutinen is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Junkers Ju-87 by Eddie Creek

One would be inclined to think that the Ju 87 would deserve a properly thorough and properly researched book by now...
__________________
"No man, no problem." Josef Stalin possibly said...:-)
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 28th September 2012, 11:00
Nick Beale's Avatar
Nick Beale Nick Beale is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Exeter, England
Posts: 6,249
Nick Beale is a jewel in the roughNick Beale is a jewel in the roughNick Beale is a jewel in the roughNick Beale is a jewel in the rough
Re: Junkers Ju-87 by Eddie Creek

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jukka Juutinen View Post
One would be inclined to think that the Ju 87 would deserve a properly thorough and properly researched book by now...
I wonder if any volunteers will come forward?
__________________
Nick Beale
http://www.ghostbombers.com
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 28th September 2012, 15:54
Jukka Juutinen Jukka Juutinen is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,195
Jukka Juutinen is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Junkers Ju-87 by Eddie Creek

Perhaps it would have to be a co-operative effort so that each author could concentrate of his particular core expertize?
__________________
"No man, no problem." Josef Stalin possibly said...:-)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 28th September 2012, 16:30
Peter Achs Peter Achs is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Thuringia
Posts: 249
Peter Achs is on a distinguished road
Re: Junkers Ju-87 by Eddie Creek

It is a matter of time. Cooperation? With Mr Creek or Mr Smith? I know only two people who could write a comprehensive book on the late Junkers aircraft (86/87/88/188 usw.). Both live within the borders of Germany.

One should have the necessary background knowledge to German aviation history. One should be able to write German names and places correctly. I miss both in the most books of Anglo-American authors.

Regards
Peter
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Athens-Tatoi Andy Mitchell Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 24 3rd May 2020 12:50
Ju188 lost in France Eric Larger Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 16 16th December 2011 00:47
Junkers Ju 87 B - Unsere Luftwaffe postcard Recceswind Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 0 8th November 2011 10:48
D-Day Ju 87 massacre Gizmo Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 26 5th June 2011 02:09
Junkers Ju 87 of Schlachtgeschwader 2 "Immelmann" Simon Schatz Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 6 15th September 2008 02:21


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 00:44.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net