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Re: German ATA?
1944-08-18, 3./Fl.ÜG 1 Süd, Bf 109G-14, 780698, Fl.Pl. Darmstadt-Griesheim, Zusammenstoß in der Luft mit mit Bf 109G-6, Werk.-Nr. 780807.Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Lt Sawkin, Ilja, + (Ehrenfriedhof Darmstadt, Grab R 8 C 168) 1944-08-18, 3./Fl.ÜG 1 Süd, Bf 109G-14, 780807, Fl.Pl. Darmstadt-Griesheim, Zusammenstoß in der Luft mit mit Bf 109G-6, Werk.-Nr. 780698.Bruch 100 %. Flugzeugführer Lt Jakowlew, Alexander, + (Ehrenfriedhof Darmstadt, Grab R 8 C 167) Matti |
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Re: German ATA?
Excellent, Matti
Do we know where/how/where Lts Sawkin and Jakowlew were captured? And more names, please! I believe Andreas knows of some. Cheers Brian |
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Re: German ATA?
Rather than Soviet POWs used to ferry aircraft, they were probably former-POW that "enlisted" more or less voluntary in "Vlassov-like" formations rather than starve in POW camps.
As for the collision reported by Matti, here is the story of Ilja Savkin: On 21 January 1943 Starshina Ilya Filippovich Savkin stole the I-16 "31" of 691 NBAP and flew to Finland, belly-landing 7 km northeats of Saarimäki, Aunus. He was handed over to the Germans on 1 May 1943 and served later with the ROA air force (the Russian air force created to support the so-called "Vlassov" army). He died on 18 August 1944% |
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Re: German ATA?
Rather than Soviet POWs used to ferry aircraft, they were probably former-POW that "enlisted" more or less voluntary in "Vlassov-like" formations rather than starve in POW camps.
As for the collision reported by Matti, here is the story of Ilja Savkin: On 21 January 1943 Starshina Ilya Filippovich Savkin stole the I-16 "31" of 691 NBAP and flew to Finland, belly-landing 7 km northeats of Saarimäki, Aunus. He was handed over to the Germans on 1 May 1943 and served later with the ROA air force (the Russian air force created to support the so-called "Vlassov" army). He died on 18 August 1944 in the collision reported above by Matti. Source: http://kv-bear.livejournal.com/1966.html |
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Re: German ATA?
the 109´s of Savkin and Jakolew crashing 1 and 2 km south of Hamm/Rheinhessen, after both aircraft loosing a wing in the midair collision.
Takeoff was airfield Darmstadt-Griesheim. khorat |
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Re: German ATA?
782159 Bf 109G-14 3.(Süd)/FlüG 1 Lt Alexej Tschassownikow+ 03.09.44 Absturz 100% b Überführungsflug b Arber
332519 VH+ZT Bf 109K-4 3.(Süd)/FlüG 1 Lt Oleg Gorbatschew+ 06.01.45 Absturz 100% Regards Roland |
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Re: German ATA?
Do we know where/how/where Lts Sawkin and Jakowlew were captured?
These ones no!, but a russian freely landed at the Anapa FP in May 43 As an example, ignore his name... Rémi |
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