Piece of Fw-190-D9 with wood

[Harrie]

Hi everybody

Can this be a part of the flaps of a late Fw190-D9 ?
The Aluminium is attached with pumpnails to the wood
I know they used wood due the lack of Alu
In febr 2011 there was a thread about this item
This piece is from a Dora wich contribute to Bodenplatte on 1-1-1945

Anyhelp would be appreciated.

[Keizer Cali]

Hi Harrie,

If the subject Dora is indeed a Bodenplatte aircraft, I doubt it would already have had wooden flaps.

Having said that, wooden parts that you would find even on early-production D-9s include the MW 50 tank hatch at the bottom fuselage centre; the equipment access hatch on the fuselage port side; the tail fin cap; the triangular shaped inspection hatch for the tail gear leg / vertical stabilizer on the port side of the fin, and possibly the rudder structure.

Given the relative thickness of the wood plus the size and shape of the part that you have, my initial though would be that it is part of the tail fin cap (others may know better, though).

Could you possibly share any further information on the aircraft, e.g. its crash location, Werknummer, unit, etc?

Cheers,

Marc

[ClinA-78]

bakélite?

[Harrie]

1-1-1945 Fw190-D9 7.JG/26 werknr 500105 Gefr Willi Kunz +

Crashlocation - Bronneger/Borger northern part of Holland near Assen

He was victim of his own flak ,crashed in small part of the in that time

small young forest [source: Operation Bodenplatte - John Manrho and John Putz]

[magyarmesszer]

It is not wood, it is bakelite!

[Harrie]

Hi mayarmesszer,

It,s wood it,s tested with a moisture measuring meter and it contains moisture .
So definitly not bakelite !
You can also cut it easlily.

[magyarmesszer]

It is textile-bakelit. It is similar to wood. It can contain moisture. You can cut it easily. But it smells so different. It is clearly seen on the photos, that it is not plywood, the texture can be seen: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/attach...9&d=1378044961

http://rabacsa.hu/hu/vizsugaras-vaga...textilbakelit/

http://t2cnc.hu/downloads/video/textilbakelit1.jpg

http://indafoto.hu/magyarmesszer/ima...11585#nagyitas

Textile-bakelite was widely used on german and russian aircraft during the war (and also after it).

I have several textile-bakelite parts found at wrecksites, and I reproduced some also:
http://indafoto.hu/magyarmesszer/ima...313feed/437997
http://indafoto.hu/magyarmesszer/ima...52a3597/437997
http://indafoto.hu/magyarmesszer/ima...37997#nagyitas

[harrison987]

It is not wood or Bakelite...

It is Phenol

Pheonlic pieces were used all over German aircraft from before the war and even until today.

Mike

[magyarmesszer]

It is not only phenol, it is bakelite!!!
Read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakelite

"Bakelite is an early plastic. It is a thermosetting phenol formaldehyde resin, formed from an elimination reaction of phenol with formaldehyde."

[Snautzer]

It is a really tiny piece but it might be a Fullklotz with some alu skin still attached.