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Old 25th September 2014, 00:52
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The main problem with Emmerling´s book is that I do not understand Polish. Must be in English or in German.
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the main problem is that no publisher in Germany or England is interested on the topic Poland 1939. Sure, I could make an updated version of all "Luftwaffe nad Polska 1939" parts in German language, but it would mean for me a completely wasted time - doing for nothing.

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Old 25th September 2014, 09:06
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the main problem is that no publisher in Germany or England is interested on the topic Poland 1939. Sure, I could make an updated version of all "Luftwaffe nad Polska 1939" parts in German language, but it would mean for me a completely wasted time - doing for nothing.

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BTW: but what about for: Big Glory, for Vaterland, for Fun, for History,
for immortality.

There are other great Big Values then money or money or moeny or money?
Such matters as ordinary bread, butter, sausage and coffee are financed from other revenue giving measurable earnings.

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I think, that just now meny editors strong think the autor is an stupid idiot working for nothing?

+ And one man can find all in Google.
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Old 25th September 2014, 10:50
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BTW: but what about for: Big Glory, for Vaterland, for Fun, for History,
for immortality.

There are other great Big Values then money or money or moeny or money?

No one publisher brings out a book just for fun or whatever.
Doing for nothing means - a lot of work, money and time by the autor and in the effect there is no one who will publish something about... Polish Campaign. This topic does not earn the publisher enough money - so think all the publishers I spoke with. It is sad but true.

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Mr. Wawrzynski, the most autors I know do not write air war books for... money. I doubt if this is possible at all.
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Old 25th September 2014, 13:56
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Re: Bf 109 in Polish Campaign 1939

Krzysztof Janowicz did it for a money a few years ago. Had done many books of varius title: from Manfred von Richthofen up to 'Hurricanes over Tobruk/ or so" and he dhad done to "about 1 September 1939 in the air".

But now market in Poland is quite different and some editors have fallen (AJ-Press, or it is quite near to it?), so there is as there is: for Fun, Glory, Vaterland and for nothing, :-)

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Publisher does not work for nothing of course, the air books are not bestsellers (most of them), very few titles yes, but very few, there are (or were) such authors (like Piekałkowiecz in Germany many years ago) .
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Old 25th September 2014, 14:31
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Krzysztof Janowicz did it for a money a few years ago.
But he did not write for an editor outside Poland.(?)
Once one of the publishers asked me how many German bombers did Polish fighters shot down 1939 in fact. I said: apr. dozen twin-engined He 111/Do 17 and a few Ju 87. And he meant: completely uninteresting!

Most publishers see the topic Poland 1939 as totally unimportant and not worth investing money. The Polish wishes are different, sure. But otherwise through many, many years some potential Polish publishers were "not happy" about the documented part of the story and (always) turned away.

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Eagles over Europe?
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Old 25th September 2014, 15:00
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Janowicz not but Wojciech Matusiak and Robert Greztyngier yes (for Grubb Street, Poles in the Defence of Britain 1940-1941, 1-st editon in UK, 2-ed improved in Poland a few years later). Grub Street is well know editor. The book about Polish fighters squadorns, a chronik, day by day account, very solid job according archive data.

There is Stratus in Poland, which is doing books almost for English market, for Polish one a few titles.

The document book has no chances for fast selling, it is need public financial support, and such book can get it of course, but but Robert Michulec at the begining of edition your book had made very stupid political mistake and this way lost possiblility for such support.




If someone can shoot yourself in the foot, Robert Michulec shot himself once in two feet in 2002, pity but true.
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Janowicz not but Wojciech Matusiak and Robert Greztyngier yes (for Grubb Street, Poles in the Defence of Britain 1940-1941, 1-st editon in UK, 2-ed improved in Poland a few years later). Grub Street is well know editor. The book about Polish fighters squadorns, a chronik, day by day account, very solid job according archive data.
Sorry, Polish campaign 1939 ???

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Robert Michulec at the begining of edition your book had made very stupid political mistake and this way lost possiblility for such support.
Robert Michulec is not the reason and you know that very well. The problem was existent long before Michulec arrived on the scene. For example in the nineties was planned a German-Polish project with J.B.Cynk as co-autor, but Cynk could not accept German documents (showing another history than Polish patriotic, heroic vision) and left very fast publishing his own version via AJ-Press (in 2000).
The problem is visible every day, even in Polish tv where you are still confronted with bad researched stories like "Bombing Experiment Frampol" or "Wielun 4.40 hours" and so on.
Many publishers cannot imagine the history could be different from that shown on tv.
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Old 25th September 2014, 17:05
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Re: Bf 109 in Polish Campaign 1939

1. Authors - very solid, + these pilot almost all fought in IX 39 and soon or later over Britian too.

The subject "air war over Poland in 1939" in fact has no real marketing value on the West and on the East too. No matter.

Only in Poland, but in Poland you have very weak distribution market just now. Such a book have no chanches for selling. Small editors are in fact smashed by Empik or Merlin, which wants to much from them and they do not pay in time too. Total nonsens and vicius circle. It is just a monopol of big, foreign distributors on a Polish book's market.

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Robert Michulec is not the reason and you know that very well. The problem was existent long before Michulec arrived on the scene. For example in the nineties was planned a German-Polish project with J.B.Cynk as co-autor, but Cynk could not accept German documents (showing another history than Polish patriotic, heroic vision) and left very fast publishing his own version via AJ-Press (in 2000).
The problem is visible every day, even in Polish tv where you are still confronted with bad researched stories like "Bombing Experiment Frampol" or "Wielun 4.40 hours" and so on.
Many publishers cannot imagine the history could be different from that shown on tv.
Not exactly, he had destroyed several personal bridges, it was not smart move as a editor, not smart. It was happend. public money could be found but not with such stupid move on the begining. Much more stupid books are printed with support of public money up to now.

Other thing, earlier project with J.B. Cynk and M. Zimny. Form obvious reason it was impossible to cooperate with J.B. Cynk.

The same problem if you would like to make any kind of cooperation between J. Pawlak and J.B. Cynk - no way, and both are 100% Polish, writing about rhe same, from the same archive, one still live in Pruszków and second in UK (London if I am right, and I hope he still is alive, almost 90?). No way to cooperate for years.

I do not make any discution about low level of history presented on TV (no matter Polish or other nation) - waste of time. Level - lower the low.
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Old 25th September 2014, 19:14
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Re: Bf 109 in Polish Campaign 1939

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Not exactly, he had destroyed several personal bridges, it was not smart move as a editor, not smart. It was happend.
I have no problem with Michulec and his Armagedon. He published 2013 my(our) last book "First Kill pchor. Gnysia" and he did it very well. We started a new era of German-Polish cooperation on the Poland 1939 topic. We will continue with the Pursuit Brigade in the near future.


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The same problem if you would like to make any kind of cooperation between J. Pawlak and J.B. Cynk - no way, and both are 100% Polish, writing about rhe same, from the same archive
So for what a cooperation between two Polish historians, who (both!) like fantastic memories of Polish pilots more than original documents?


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I do not make any discution about low level of history presented on TV (no matter Polish or other nation) - waste of time. Level - lower the low.
Sure, but "patriotic" people looking tv and believing the fairy tales presented there are later furiously attacking autors on forums like this, because they are writing about other, well documented things. The question of falsifying in documents was suddenly seen as more likely than in veterans memories...
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